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Same as intercourse-free sex. A big business. But a sad one.

by Vampiero 2y ago

underyx 2y ago
Decreased poison intake is not sad, actually.
- cduzz 2y ago
  The sayings are "the dose makes the poison." or "The solution is dilution." I've found over time that neither aphorism is true. The poison is poison, regardless. Caffeine, Sugar, Plastic, Alcohol, Social media --- all bad like arsenic, but tastier (or more useful). I want to drink some sugar free beverage that's not just water, and find that my only option is typically caffeinated (or alcoholic, which is nearly the same as sugar). So indeed, decreasing poison intake is a good thing. Since life is inevitability fatal, I'll probably not go to the extreme of eliminating any of those.
  - sebstefan 2y ago
    There is a recommended dose of sugar a day, there is no safe dose of alcohol. Same as cigarettes
    - lambdaba 2y ago
      There is a recommended upper limit, your comment makes it sound like sugar is a requirement. I think some people might still believe you "need" sugar, I certainly grew up with that notion.
      - cduzz 2y ago
        People need carbohydrates. Sugar is one of the possible ways of getting carbohydrates, certainly one of the most delicious. You won't get sick if you get your carbohydrates from some non sucrose / fructose source.
        wiseowise 2y ago
        > Sugar is one of the possible ways of getting carbohydrates, certainly one of the most delicious. And certainly one of the most expensive ones in the long run.
        lambdaba 2y ago
        Carbohydrates are not biologically required in the diet.
      - sebstefan 2y ago
        >your comment makes it sound like sugar is a requirement Sugars plural yes Hypoglycemia
        lambdaba 2y ago
        There is no biological requirement for dietary carbohydrates.
        sebstefan 2y ago
        Then how do we get glucose to avoid hypoglycemia?
        lambdaba 2y ago
        the liver makes glucose (called gluconeogenesis), this happens regardless of diet
        sebstefan 2y ago
        Damn I looked it up and it's true, the WHO has no recommendation for a minimum amount of carbs nor sugar
  - wiseowise 2y ago
    > I want to drink some sugar free beverage that's not just water, and find that my only option is typically caffeinated (or alcoholic, which is nearly the same as sugar). Move to the Netherlands. https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi518907/zero-sugar-zero-caffeine-8-pack https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi518907/zero-sugar-zero...
    - cduzz 2y ago
      Oh, I don't even want it to taste sweet; cold black coffee is my typical beverage; I've had to switch to decaf just to keep my resting heart rate somewhere below 100bpm...
wiseowise 2y ago
Ah. Old and tired (false) equivalence of "alcohol free beer is like sex with a fake woman", or whatever alcoholics used to say.
- ty6853 2y ago
  Have you considered this comes from experience? Just because you don't have that experience doesn't mean others don't. 0 EtOH feels extremely fake to me even from the taste, I'm not sure fermented ethanol flavor can really be imitated. Some people may like it but for most there's far better not beer tasting non ethanol drinks and fake beer just feels like fake Sriracha.
  - wiseowise 2y ago
    Have you considered that the statement is extremely misogynistic and comparing drinks isn't the same as comparing sex between a person and nonliving thing? And I know that 0 alcohol tastes like piss, the original point is that alcohol is bad for you - and this is 100% true. Having less alcohol in people's blood isn't sad.
    - ty6853 2y ago
      Lol you switched gender unqualified 'sex' to sex with a (fake) woman then indicted yourself for misogyny.
      - wiseowise 2y ago
        Alcohol and misogyny go hand to hand from my experience. This differs by culture, though, I'll give you that.
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batch12 2y ago
STD-free sex maybe. I really don't drink anymore because I got tired of its negative aspects like weight gain, hangovers, doing stupid things, loss of self control, loss of productive time, etc. I have a few Athletic beers in the fridge for when I get the craving for the taste of beer. It happens maybe once every few months when I'm doing something like grilling, but it usually only takes one to quench. I don't care if others drink, but it's really not something I care about much anymore.

Same as intercourse-free sex. A big business. But a sad one.

underyx 2y ago

Decreased poison intake is not sad, actually.

cduzz 2y ago
The sayings are "the dose makes the poison." or "The solution is dilution." I've found over time that neither aphorism is true. The poison is poison, regardless. Caffeine, Sugar, Plastic, Alcohol, Social media --- all bad like arsenic, but tastier (or more useful). I want to drink some sugar free beverage that's not just water, and find that my only option is typically caffeinated (or alcoholic, which is nearly the same as sugar). So indeed, decreasing poison intake is a good thing. Since life is inevitability fatal, I'll probably not go to the extreme of eliminating any of those.
- sebstefan 2y ago
  There is a recommended dose of sugar a day, there is no safe dose of alcohol. Same as cigarettes
  - lambdaba 2y ago
    There is a recommended upper limit, your comment makes it sound like sugar is a requirement. I think some people might still believe you "need" sugar, I certainly grew up with that notion.
    - cduzz 2y ago
      People need carbohydrates. Sugar is one of the possible ways of getting carbohydrates, certainly one of the most delicious. You won't get sick if you get your carbohydrates from some non sucrose / fructose source.
      - wiseowise 2y ago
        > Sugar is one of the possible ways of getting carbohydrates, certainly one of the most delicious. And certainly one of the most expensive ones in the long run.
      - lambdaba 2y ago
        Carbohydrates are not biologically required in the diet.
    - sebstefan 2y ago
      >your comment makes it sound like sugar is a requirement Sugars plural yes Hypoglycemia
      - lambdaba 2y ago
        There is no biological requirement for dietary carbohydrates.
        sebstefan 2y ago
        Then how do we get glucose to avoid hypoglycemia?
        lambdaba 2y ago
        the liver makes glucose (called gluconeogenesis), this happens regardless of diet
        sebstefan 2y ago
        Damn I looked it up and it's true, the WHO has no recommendation for a minimum amount of carbs nor sugar
- wiseowise 2y ago
  > I want to drink some sugar free beverage that's not just water, and find that my only option is typically caffeinated (or alcoholic, which is nearly the same as sugar). Move to the Netherlands. https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi518907/zero-sugar-zero-caffeine-8-pack https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi518907/zero-sugar-zero...
  - cduzz 2y ago
    Oh, I don't even want it to taste sweet; cold black coffee is my typical beverage; I've had to switch to decaf just to keep my resting heart rate somewhere below 100bpm...

wiseowise 2y ago

Ah. Old and tired (false) equivalence of "alcohol free beer is like sex with a fake woman", or whatever alcoholics used to say.

ty6853 2y ago
Have you considered this comes from experience? Just because you don't have that experience doesn't mean others don't. 0 EtOH feels extremely fake to me even from the taste, I'm not sure fermented ethanol flavor can really be imitated. Some people may like it but for most there's far better not beer tasting non ethanol drinks and fake beer just feels like fake Sriracha.
- wiseowise 2y ago
  Have you considered that the statement is extremely misogynistic and comparing drinks isn't the same as comparing sex between a person and nonliving thing? And I know that 0 alcohol tastes like piss, the original point is that alcohol is bad for you - and this is 100% true. Having less alcohol in people's blood isn't sad.
  - ty6853 2y ago
    Lol you switched gender unqualified 'sex' to sex with a (fake) woman then indicted yourself for misogyny.
    - wiseowise 2y ago
      Alcohol and misogyny go hand to hand from my experience. This differs by culture, though, I'll give you that.
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batch12 2y ago

STD-free sex maybe. I really don't drink anymore because I got tired of its negative aspects like weight gain, hangovers, doing stupid things, loss of self control, loss of productive time, etc. I have a few Athletic beers in the fridge for when I get the craving for the taste of beer. It happens maybe once every few months when I'm doing something like grilling, but it usually only takes one to quench. I don't care if others drink, but it's really not something I care about much anymore.