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What's truly astounding is that almost everything that we consider to be "civilization" developed over the past 10,000 years or so. The historical turning point
by lapcat 2y ago
What's truly astounding is that almost everything that we consider to be "civilization" developed over the past 10,000 years or so. The historical turning point was the move from the wandering hunter-gatherer lifestyle to agriculture and permanent human settlements. Before agriculture, the life of humans wasn't a lot different from any other animals, despite the tools.
- mmooss 2y agoI agree that the last 10,000 years are astounding, though that came after 7 million years of evolution (or ~540 million years, or billions of years, depending on how you look at it). > Before agriculture, the life of humans wasn't a lot different from any other animals, despite the tools. Pace Silicon Valley; we are far more than our technology! If you took away my permanent structures, agricultural products, computer, writing, and other post-paleolithic technology, I still would be much more than an animal, thank you. And so would you.
- lapcat 2y ago> If you took away my permanent structures, agricultural products, computer, writing, and other post-paleolithic technology, I still would be much more than an animal, thank you. And so would you. I disagree.
- circlefavshape 2y agoI also disagree. I contend that the person who wrote "I still would be much more than an animal" knows very little about animals
- mmooss 2y agoI post on Hacker News, therefore I am.
- BlueTemplar 2y agoBut on the Internet, nobody knows that you are a moose.
- mmooss 2y agoThat's unfair. I think I've made it clear!
- vanattab 2y agoPlease explain what you would be doing and how it is dramatically different from other animals? You have no social groups larger then extended family and no free time to dedicate to anything other then substance gathering.
- roughly 2y agoBoth of these are incorrect. There's plenty of evidence of trade between disparate groups and plenty of evidence of art, craft, etc. that indicate our pre-agricultural ancestors had free time and contact with other groups.
- mmooss 2y ago:) Use your imagination. Here, they drew you a picture: https://archeologie.culture.gouv.fr/lascaux/en/lascaux-cave-virtual-visit https://archeologie.culture.gouv.fr/lascaux/en/lascaux-cave-...
- euroderf 2y ago> The historical turning point was the move from the wandering hunter-gatherer lifestyle to agriculture and permanent human settlements. This is due, of course, to the invention of brewing.