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The xx90 cards are really Titan cards. The 3090 was the successor to the Titan RTX, while the 3080 Ti was the successor to the 2080 Ti, which succeeded the 1080

by ryao 2y ago

The xx90 cards are really Titan cards. The 3090 was the successor to the Titan RTX, while the 3080 Ti was the successor to the 2080 Ti, which succeeded the 1080 Ti. This succession continued into the 40 series and now the 50 series. If you consider the 2080 Ti to be the "value high end card" of its day, then it would follow that the 5080 is the value high end card today, not the 5090.

kcb 2y ago
In all those historical cases the second tier card was a cut down version of the top tier one. Now the 4080 and 5080 are a different chip and there's a gulf of a performance gap between them and the top tier. That's the issue I am highlighting, the 5080 is half a 5090, in the past a 3080 was only 10% off a 3090 performance wise.
- ryao 2y ago
  It was not actually. The last time this was the case was Maxwell: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gm200.g772 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gm200.g772 Beginning with Pascal, Nvidia’s top GPU was not available in consumer graphics cards: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gp100.g792 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gp100.g792 Turing was a bit weird since instead of having a TU100, they instead had Volta’s GV100: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-tu102.g813 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-tu102.g813 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gv100.g809 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gv100.g809 Then there is Ampere’s GA100 that never was used in a consumer graphics card: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ga100.g931 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ga100.g931 Ada was again weird as instead of a AD100, it had the GH100: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ad102.g1005 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ad102.g1005 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gh100.g1011 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gh100.g1011 Now with Blackwell the GB100 is the high end one that is not going into consumer cards. The 5090 gets GB202 and the 5080 gets GB203. Rather than the 40 series and 50 series putting the #2 GPU die into the #2 consumer card, they are putting the #3 GPU die into the #2 consumer card.
  - kcb 2y ago
    This is not relevant to what is being discussed. I clearly mean top tier consumer GPU. 3080/3090 - Same die 2080 ti/Titan RTX - Same die 1080 ti/Titan Xp - Same die 980 ti/Titan X - Same die 780/Titan - Same die 670/680 - Same die 570/580 - Same die 470/480 - Same die

by ryao 2y ago

kcb 2y ago

In all those historical cases the second tier card was a cut down version of the top tier one. Now the 4080 and 5080 are a different chip and there's a gulf of a performance gap between them and the top tier. That's the issue I am highlighting, the 5080 is half a 5090, in the past a 3080 was only 10% off a 3090 performance wise.

ryao 2y ago
It was not actually. The last time this was the case was Maxwell: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gm200.g772 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gm200.g772 Beginning with Pascal, Nvidia’s top GPU was not available in consumer graphics cards: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gp100.g792 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gp100.g792 Turing was a bit weird since instead of having a TU100, they instead had Volta’s GV100: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-tu102.g813 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-tu102.g813 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gv100.g809 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gv100.g809 Then there is Ampere’s GA100 that never was used in a consumer graphics card: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ga100.g931 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ga100.g931 Ada was again weird as instead of a AD100, it had the GH100: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ad102.g1005 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ad102.g1005 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gh100.g1011 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gh100.g1011 Now with Blackwell the GB100 is the high end one that is not going into consumer cards. The 5090 gets GB202 and the 5080 gets GB203. Rather than the 40 series and 50 series putting the #2 GPU die into the #2 consumer card, they are putting the #3 GPU die into the #2 consumer card.
- kcb 2y ago
  This is not relevant to what is being discussed. I clearly mean top tier consumer GPU. 3080/3090 - Same die 2080 ti/Titan RTX - Same die 1080 ti/Titan Xp - Same die 980 ti/Titan X - Same die 780/Titan - Same die 670/680 - Same die 570/580 - Same die 470/480 - Same die