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Nvidia is also clearly differentiating the 5090 as the gaming card for people who want the best and an extra thousand dollars is a rounding error. They could ha
by simondotau 2y ago
Nvidia is also clearly differentiating the 5090 as the gaming card for people who want the best and an extra thousand dollars is a rounding error. They could have sold it for $1500 and still made big coin, but no doubt the extra $500 is pure wealth tax.
It probably serves to make the 4070 look reasonably priced, even though it isn't.
- ryao 2y agoLeaks indicate that the PCB has 14 layers with a 512-bit memory bus. It also has 32GB of GDDR7 memory and the die size is expected to be huge. This is all expensive. Would you prefer that they had not made the card and instead made a lesser card that was cheaper to make to avoid the higher price? That is the AMD strategy and they have lower prices.
- simondotau 2y agoThat PCB is probably a few dollars per unit. The die is probably the same as the one in the 5070. I've no doubt it's an expensive product to build, but that doesn't mean the price is cost plus markup.
- ryao 2y agoCurrently, the 5070 is expected to use the GB205 die while the 5090 is expected to use the GB202 die: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5070.c4218 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5070.c4218 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5090.c4216 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5090.c4216 It is unlikely that the 5070 and 5090 share the same die when the 4090 and 4080 did not share same die. Also, could an electrical engineer estimate how much this costs to manufacture: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-pcb-leak-reveals-massive-gb202-gpu-package https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-pcb-leak...
- shadowpho 2y ago>That PCB is probably a few dollars per unit. It’s not. 14L PCB are expensive. When I looked at Apple cost for their PCB it was probably closer to $50, and they have smaller area
- sliken 2y agoDouble the bandwidth, double the ram, double the pins, and double the power isn't cheap. I wouldn't be surprised if the profit on the 4090 was less than the 4080, especially since any R&D costs will be spread over significantly less units.
- formerly_proven 2y agoThere have been numerous reports over the years that the 4090 actually outsold the 4080.
- BigJ1211 2y agoThe 4080 was also quite the bad value compared to the much better 4090. That remains to be seen for the 5000 series.
- williamDafoe 2y agoThe 4080 was designed as a strawman card expressly to drive sales towards the 4090. So this is by design.
- epolanski 2y agoGaming enthusiasts didn't beat an eye at 4090 price and won't beat one there either. 4090 was already priced for high income (in first world countries) people. Nvidia saw 4090s were being sold on second hand market way beyond 2k. They merely milking the cow.