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how’s everyone playing valorant feeling about their anti cheat rootkit now?

tiahura 2y ago
What about all the Unreal Engine games? Tim Sweeney and his gang seem like they’ll do anything for the right price. We know they’re not above ripping off kids. Who’s to say what they’ve slipped into the latest build of Fortnite at Tencent’s request. Now that we know they’re useful idiots for the Chinese Military, hopefully they’ll start to get some scrutiny.
- tylerchilds 2y ago
  does epic also require a rootkit for anti cheat? i’m only familiar with the valorant one since that’s the game my irl friends play that i won’t install because of
- motorest 2y ago
  > What about (...) That doesn't answer OP's question.
  - tiahura 2y ago
    And you didn’t answer mine?
    - motorest 2y ago
      > And you didn’t answer mine? You must answer OP's question, unless your goal is to distract from the point OP made. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism This was OP's question: > how’s everyone playing valorant feeling about their anti cheat rootkit now? Meaning, people playing Valorant are running a rootkit developed by a Chinese military company. How does everyone feel about installing a rootkit developed by a Chinese military company?
      - tiahura 2y ago
        You misread me or don’t understand the context. I’m not trying to downplay whatever Valorant is doing, I’m suggesting that since Epic is also a Tencent company, they deserve the same level of scrutiny and skepticism.
        tylerchilds 2y ago
        and my follow up question is: do epic games have the same rootkit valorant does? i’m genuinely curious to know
bloomingkales 2y ago
Is this not in Marvel Rivals also? Think it’s in too many things at this point. We would need Valve to enforce.
- tylerchilds 2y ago
  you can’t install valorant from steam, so valve isn’t involved in tencent’s anti cheat rootkit. i’d love to know if marvel rivals needs one though, if you have a source
- riffruff24 2y ago
  Nope.. maybe. Valve now requires anti cheat to be present on the store page. Highlighted in yellow along with EULAs and 3rd party login. Apex Legends did not have kernel level anti cheat even though recently they block linux/steamdeck users. Marvel Rivals[1] does not. A store page of game with kernel level anti cheat would be Delta Force[2]. Then again, I'm not sure how true this is since I'm pretty sure its the devs responsibility. GTA5 apparently added anti cheat[3] but their store page didn't indicate any. [1] https://store.steampowered.com/app/2767030/Marvel_Rivals/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/2767030/Marvel_Rivals/ [2] https://store.steampowered.com/app/2507950/Delta_Force/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/2507950/Delta_Force/ [3] https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/gta-online-is-no-longer-supported-by-steam-deck-thanks-to-a-slightly-baffling-rockstar-anti-cheat-update https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/gta-online-is-no-longer-sup...

What about all the Unreal Engine games? Tim Sweeney and his gang seem like they’ll do anything for the right price. We know they’re not above ripping off kids. Who’s to say what they’ve slipped into the latest build of Fortnite at Tencent’s request. Now that we know they’re useful idiots for the Chinese Military, hopefully they’ll start to get some scrutiny.

tylerchilds 2y ago
does epic also require a rootkit for anti cheat? i’m only familiar with the valorant one since that’s the game my irl friends play that i won’t install because of
motorest 2y ago
> What about (...) That doesn't answer OP's question.
- tiahura 2y ago
  And you didn’t answer mine?
  - motorest 2y ago
    > And you didn’t answer mine? You must answer OP's question, unless your goal is to distract from the point OP made. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism This was OP's question: > how’s everyone playing valorant feeling about their anti cheat rootkit now? Meaning, people playing Valorant are running a rootkit developed by a Chinese military company. How does everyone feel about installing a rootkit developed by a Chinese military company?
    - tiahura 2y ago
      You misread me or don’t understand the context. I’m not trying to downplay whatever Valorant is doing, I’m suggesting that since Epic is also a Tencent company, they deserve the same level of scrutiny and skepticism.
      - tylerchilds 2y ago
        and my follow up question is: do epic games have the same rootkit valorant does? i’m genuinely curious to know

bloomingkales 2y ago

Is this not in Marvel Rivals also? Think it’s in too many things at this point. We would need Valve to enforce.

tylerchilds 2y ago
you can’t install valorant from steam, so valve isn’t involved in tencent’s anti cheat rootkit. i’d love to know if marvel rivals needs one though, if you have a source
riffruff24 2y ago
Nope.. maybe. Valve now requires anti cheat to be present on the store page. Highlighted in yellow along with EULAs and 3rd party login. Apex Legends did not have kernel level anti cheat even though recently they block linux/steamdeck users. Marvel Rivals[1] does not. A store page of game with kernel level anti cheat would be Delta Force[2]. Then again, I'm not sure how true this is since I'm pretty sure its the devs responsibility. GTA5 apparently added anti cheat[3] but their store page didn't indicate any. [1] https://store.steampowered.com/app/2767030/Marvel_Rivals/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/2767030/Marvel_Rivals/ [2] https://store.steampowered.com/app/2507950/Delta_Force/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/2507950/Delta_Force/ [3] https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/gta-online-is-no-longer-supported-by-steam-deck-thanks-to-a-slightly-baffling-rockstar-anti-cheat-update https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/gta-online-is-no-longer-sup...