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Honestly, with how fast memory is being consumed nowadays and the increased focus on frame generation/interpolation vs “full frames”, I’ll keep my 3090 a little

Honestly, with how fast memory is being consumed nowadays and the increased focus on frame generation/interpolation vs “full frames”, I’ll keep my 3090 a little longer instead of upgrading to a 5080 or 5090. It’s not the fastest, but it’s a solid card even in 2025 for 1440p RT gaming on a VRR display, and the memory lets me tinker with LLMs without breaking a sweat. If DLSS4 and “MOAR POWAH” are the only things on offer versus my 3090, it’s a hard pass. I need efficiency, not a bigger TDP.

DimmieMan 2y ago
I use my 3090 on a 4K TV and still don't see a need, although a lot of that is being bored with most big budget games so I don't have many carrots to push me to upgrade. Turn down a few showcase features and games still look great and run well with none or light DLSS. UE5 Lumen/ray tracing are the only things I feel limited on and until consoles can run them they'll be optional. It seems all the gains are brute forcing these features with upscaling & frame generation which I'm not a fan of anyway. Maybe a 7090 at this rate for me.
ziml77 2y ago
Efficiency is why I switched from a 3090 to a 4080. The amount of heat generated by my PC was massively reduced with that change. Even if the xx90 weren't jumping up in price each generation, I wouldn't be tempted to buy one again (I didn't even really want the 3090, but that was during the supply shortages and it was all I could get my hands on).
ryao 2y ago
Pricing for the next generation might be somewhat better if Nvidia switches to Samsung for 2nm like the rumors suggest: https://wccftech.com/nvidia-is-rumored-to-switch-towards-samsung-foundry-for-2nm-process/ https://wccftech.com/nvidia-is-rumored-to-switch-towards-sam... Coincidentally, the 3090 was made using Samsung's 8nm process. You would be going from one Samsung fabricated GPU to another.
- lordofgibbons 2y ago
  NVidia's pricing isn't based on how much it takes to produce their cards, but since they have no competition, it's purely based on how much consumers are grudgingly willing to pay up. If AMD continues to sleep, they'll sale these cards for the same price, even if they could produce them for free.
  - ryao 2y ago
    Nvidia’s Titan series cards always were outrageously priced for the consumer market. The 5090 is a Titan series card in all but name. I suspect there is a correlation to the price that it costs Nvidia to produce these. In particular, the price is likely 3 times higher than the production and distribution costs. The computer industry has always had significant margins on processors.
  - Yeul 2y ago
    AMD is not sleeping. They publicly admitted that they threw in the towel- they have exited the high end market.
    - stego-tech 2y ago
      And if these 50-series specs are anything to go by, they made a good call in doing so. All the big improvements are coming in mid-range cards, where AMD, nVidia, and Intel(!) are trading blows. If the only way to get better raw frames in modern GPUs is to basically keep shoveling power into them like an old Pentium 4, then that’s not exactly an enticing or profitable space to be in. Best leave that to nVidia and focus your efforts on a competitive segment where cost and efficiency are more important.
lemoncookiechip 2y ago
DLSS4 is coming to other RTX cards, eventually. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss4-multi-frame-generation-ai-innovations/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss4-multi-frame-...
- vineyardlabs 2y ago
  Note, the portions of DLSS4 that improve 2x frame generation performance/stability and the improved models for upscaling are coming to other rtx cards. DlSS4 multi-frame generation will not.

DimmieMan 2y ago

I use my 3090 on a 4K TV and still don't see a need, although a lot of that is being bored with most big budget games so I don't have many carrots to push me to upgrade. Turn down a few showcase features and games still look great and run well with none or light DLSS. UE5 Lumen/ray tracing are the only things I feel limited on and until consoles can run them they'll be optional. It seems all the gains are brute forcing these features with upscaling & frame generation which I'm not a fan of anyway. Maybe a 7090 at this rate for me.

ziml77 2y ago

Efficiency is why I switched from a 3090 to a 4080. The amount of heat generated by my PC was massively reduced with that change. Even if the xx90 weren't jumping up in price each generation, I wouldn't be tempted to buy one again (I didn't even really want the 3090, but that was during the supply shortages and it was all I could get my hands on).

ryao 2y ago

Pricing for the next generation might be somewhat better if Nvidia switches to Samsung for 2nm like the rumors suggest: https://wccftech.com/nvidia-is-rumored-to-switch-towards-samsung-foundry-for-2nm-process/ https://wccftech.com/nvidia-is-rumored-to-switch-towards-sam... Coincidentally, the 3090 was made using Samsung's 8nm process. You would be going from one Samsung fabricated GPU to another.

lordofgibbons 2y ago
NVidia's pricing isn't based on how much it takes to produce their cards, but since they have no competition, it's purely based on how much consumers are grudgingly willing to pay up. If AMD continues to sleep, they'll sale these cards for the same price, even if they could produce them for free.
- ryao 2y ago
  Nvidia’s Titan series cards always were outrageously priced for the consumer market. The 5090 is a Titan series card in all but name. I suspect there is a correlation to the price that it costs Nvidia to produce these. In particular, the price is likely 3 times higher than the production and distribution costs. The computer industry has always had significant margins on processors.
- Yeul 2y ago
  AMD is not sleeping. They publicly admitted that they threw in the towel- they have exited the high end market.
  - stego-tech 2y ago
    And if these 50-series specs are anything to go by, they made a good call in doing so. All the big improvements are coming in mid-range cards, where AMD, nVidia, and Intel(!) are trading blows. If the only way to get better raw frames in modern GPUs is to basically keep shoveling power into them like an old Pentium 4, then that’s not exactly an enticing or profitable space to be in. Best leave that to nVidia and focus your efforts on a competitive segment where cost and efficiency are more important.

lemoncookiechip 2y ago

DLSS4 is coming to other RTX cards, eventually. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss4-multi-frame-generation-ai-innovations/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss4-multi-frame-...

vineyardlabs 2y ago
Note, the portions of DLSS4 that improve 2x frame generation performance/stability and the improved models for upscaling are coming to other rtx cards. DlSS4 multi-frame generation will not.