It's interesting that you find it useful for optimization. I've found that they're barely capable of anything more than shallow optimization in my stuff without

It's interesting that you find it useful for optimization. I've found that they're barely capable of anything more than shallow optimization in my stuff without significant direction. What I find useful is that I can keep thinking at one abstraction level without hopping back and forth between algorithm and codegen. The chat is also a written artifact I can use the faster language parts of my brain on instead of the slower abstract thought parts.