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The same way responsible enterprise class companies rely on "trust us bro" EULAs for financial systems, customer databases, payroll, and all the other systems i

The same way responsible enterprise class companies rely on "trust us bro" EULAs for financial systems, customer databases, payroll, and all the other systems it would be very expensive and error prone to build custom for every business.

alightsoul 2y ago
But isn't AI very competitive right now? And also have more direct access to the "secret sauce" of the company?
- codebje 2y ago
  What would competitiveness of AI have to do with whether a confidentiality clause in a commercial license is enough for an enterprise or not? A source code hosting service has direct access to the "secret sauce" of a company built around proprietary software. A customer relationship management service has direct access to the "secret sauce" of a company built around sales and customer relations. A document management service has direct access to the "secret sauce" of a company built around confidential documents. A cloud hosting provider has direct access to the "secret sauce" of a company built around a database. Everything's SaaS. Everyone's confidential and critical data is aggregated in some big provider's system. Except for a few paranoid (sensible? rational?) holdouts who aren't competitive as a result.
ryanobjc 2y ago
Pretty much this. OpenAI poisoned the well badly with their "we train off your chats" nonsense. If you are using any API service, or any enterprise ChatGPT plan, your tokens are not being logged and recycled into new training data. As for why trust them? Like the parent said: EULAs. Large companies trust EULAs and terms of service for every single SAAS product they use, and they use tons and tons of them. OpenAI in a clumsy attempt to create a regulatory moat by doing sketchy shit and waving wild "AI will kill us all" nonsense has created a situation where the usefullness of these transforming generative solutions are automatically rejected by many.
- alightsoul 2y ago
  The enterprise plan and I believe the API too are more expensive

alightsoul 2y ago

But isn't AI very competitive right now? And also have more direct access to the "secret sauce" of the company?

codebje 2y ago
What would competitiveness of AI have to do with whether a confidentiality clause in a commercial license is enough for an enterprise or not? A source code hosting service has direct access to the "secret sauce" of a company built around proprietary software. A customer relationship management service has direct access to the "secret sauce" of a company built around sales and customer relations. A document management service has direct access to the "secret sauce" of a company built around confidential documents. A cloud hosting provider has direct access to the "secret sauce" of a company built around a database. Everything's SaaS. Everyone's confidential and critical data is aggregated in some big provider's system. Except for a few paranoid (sensible? rational?) holdouts who aren't competitive as a result.

ryanobjc 2y ago

Pretty much this. OpenAI poisoned the well badly with their "we train off your chats" nonsense. If you are using any API service, or any enterprise ChatGPT plan, your tokens are not being logged and recycled into new training data. As for why trust them? Like the parent said: EULAs. Large companies trust EULAs and terms of service for every single SAAS product they use, and they use tons and tons of them. OpenAI in a clumsy attempt to create a regulatory moat by doing sketchy shit and waving wild "AI will kill us all" nonsense has created a situation where the usefullness of these transforming generative solutions are automatically rejected by many.

alightsoul 2y ago
The enterprise plan and I believe the API too are more expensive