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Close to 5 million people ride MTA trains and buses every day. And that number gets much higher if you include commuter rail, NJ Transit, PATH, ferries etc. ope
by paxys 2y ago
Close to 5 million people ride MTA trains and buses every day. And that number gets much higher if you include commuter rail, NJ Transit, PATH, ferries etc. operating in the city. Over 70% of daily commuters in NYC already use some form of public transit, and 90% of those commuting into Manhattan use public transit.
All the "the subways are too crime ridden to use" shouts are pure propaganda. If millions of New Yorkers can survive, so can you.
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- RhysU 2y agoCalling it "pure propaganda" is itself pure propaganda. Counterpoint, this poor soul who was literally burned to death: https://nypost.com/2024/12/31/us-news/mystery-woman-torched-to-death-in-horrific-nyc-subway-attack-finally-identified-by-cops-sources/ https://nypost.com/2024/12/31/us-news/mystery-woman-torched-... The subway is worse than it was pre-Covid. Congestion pricing will not address that. "Suck it up cowards" is hardly good public policy.
- paxys 2y agoOkay now let's similarly post about every single one of the hundreds of people who were killed in traffic accidents last year in the city (including plenty who burned to death in their cars). That should be enough to convince you that no one should drive here right? Or is safety suddenly not a concern anymore?
- throwaway48476 2y agoPeople seek agency and don't consider traffic deaths to be the same as random assaults. It's for the same reason most people think they'd do well in a fight. They value their agency and assume they would be able to prevent it.
- paxys 2y agoAre you implying everyone who gets in a traffic accident has full agency over the situation? Because that is laughably far from reality. It is infinitely easier to consciously avoid danger on the subway than in a car.
- RhysU 2y agoI have some agency. I can drive faster or slower, more or less aggressively, choose a vehicle based on safety, not drive in bad weather or when the bars let out, drive more or less frequently. I can't control if some batshit crazy tries to set me on fire, aside from riding the subway less. I do ride the subway, BTW. But I definitely do not habitually walk as close to the platform edge as I used to given how public safety has slide the last handful of years. I blame, of course, de Blasio.
- boroboro4 2y agoYou have way more control over batshit crazies than riding the subway less. You can change the subway car, fight, ask for help, engage the police. And let’s face it - you never gonna be this person who got burnt.
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- ben_w 2y ago> Are you implying everyone who gets in a traffic accident has full agency over the situation? Because that is laughably far from reality. It is infinitely easier to consciously avoid danger on the subway than in a car. I would note that people can falsely believe things about how much agency they really have, and that this seems to be the case with cars vs. public transit.
- bluesnews 2y agoPedestrians outside of cars don't have agency to prevent injury to themselves from cars.
- RhysU 2y agoWell, hell, let's think about everyone who choked to death in New York. Krazy Kat should levy a masticulation tax below 60th street. It'll be easier to get a table! Think of all the environmental benefits of not eating fancy foods!
- Qwertious 2y ago>The peer who called out agency makes the right point. I choose to drive and I accept the baseline danger of driving. Pedestrians get killed by car crashes all the time, and they never accepted that baseline danger of driving.
- RhysU 2y agoApologies. I revised my comment after you replied. I did not notice the reply.
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- blitzar 2y ago100% off all home invasions occur in peoples residences and can be a terrifying and often deadly experience. It is recommended that if you want to avoid these crimes you stay away from homes.
- perryizgr8 2y agoIf it's so good then why do they need measures like this one?