> the verdict is clear Not to me. I know there's plenty of junk, but if you opt out of the node ecosystem in its entirety, you're essentially opting out of mo

> the verdict is clear Not to me. I know there's plenty of junk, but if you opt out of the node ecosystem in its entirety, you're essentially opting out of most of javascript development as well, which is a substantial part of web development. That's your choice, but you're missing out on a lot of good and useful things... just in terms of software development but also in terms of meeting whatever your business needs are (if you're trying to make money). Javascript static analysis tools can be very useful (like TS and eslint). app frameworks can provide routing, UI frameworks, UI controls, validation libraries, etc. that you would otherwise have to implement on your own. These are all part of the node ecosystem. htmx is part of the node ecosystem. IDK, lumping it all together doesn't make sense to me because there's a lot lost and little gained.