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People can use whatever words they please. Never mistake yourself to be the arbiter of language, which is ever evolving.

reaperducer 2y ago
Never mistake yourself to be the arbiter of language Isn't that exactly what you just did?
- zem 2y ago
  "you're not the boss of me" does not mean "i am the boss"!
  - mrayycombi 2y ago
    If I am not the boss of you, and you aren't the boss, then someone else is the boss of you. Did I miss something?
    - zem 2y ago
      yeah - the need for a boss in the first place. there simply isn't one.
      - mrayycombi 2y ago
        Bosses exist because they will themselves into it. Bosses aren't invented by rational necessity. Bosses make themselves boss. There's no need for anarchism either.
        soulofmischief 2y ago
        If zem and I were in a room by ourselves, I don't think either of us would try to be "boss". Only once someone who supports such power structures, such as yourself, enters the picture, do we have to start protecting ourselves against such people. Have you read Lord of the Flies?
        mrayycombi 2y ago
        You may be right. You and Zem can live on an island in your anarchist utopia. Back to reality there are more bosses everywhere your philosophical position won't wish out of existence. You have a job, don't you?
        soulofmischief 2y ago
        I'm self-employed, and the existence of a top-down hierarchical power structure is not evidence that one is necessary. We're also now several straw mans away from the original argument.
        mrayycombi 2y ago
        I assert that necessity is self created. The Romans made themselves your boss. There was no "rational" necessity. Bosses come into existence by will, not logic. The world is irrational. Strawman are legitimate forms of persuasive argument, logic is for Spock.
        soulofmischief 2y ago
        There is nothing legitimate or persuasive about the flawed argument you're presenting.
- Brian_K_White 2y ago
  nope
mrayycombi 2y ago
We all got a$$holes and opinions and most of them stink. You give me your stinky opinion saying mine stinks. Well, you're wrong of course. A claim to "evolution" meaning "change" is simply an excuse for anything. Evolution is about selection and I'm the big bad wolf eating your baby children: you go extinct. That's evolution, not some cheesy anything goes resignation.
- soulofmischief 2y ago
  "Other people can do what they want" is not an opinion, it's a fact of life. You can deal with it, or you can get so upset that you try to physically stop them. Is that something you want to do over the use of language? Evolution is not about "selection", you're referring to a biological concept known as natural selection. I'm sorry to tell you, the evolution of a system simply means the development of the system over time. Feel free to check a dictionary. You should look up "homonym" while you're at it. For someone so bent on controlling the English language, you should put more time into understanding it.
  - mrayycombi 2y ago
    People cant do what they want. What planet are you on? Laws, social norms, peer pressure, karma moderators are ALL telling you what to do. The only reason "evolution" is thrown around is bc of natural selection. To use evolution as a term is to imply it. And natural selection applies to cultures, behavior (see reinforcement learning, selection of responses by consequences) etc. There is no freedom anywhere.
    - soulofmischief 2y ago
      > People cant do what they want. What planet are you on? A planet where I can try to do anything I want, only stopped if what I am doing is being prevented by someone physically stopping me, such as an officer or concerned citizen. As per my post. > The only reason "evolution" is thrown around is bc of natural selection. To use evolution as a term is to imply it. https://ncse.ngo/defining-evolution https://ncse.ngo/defining-evolution > Initially, the Latin word evolutio meant the unrolling of a scroll https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evolution https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evolution > 2a: a process of change in a certain direction (unfolding) Your claims are easily falsifiable. The modern use of "evolution" in biology evolved after the word was already in use to mean change. You have no authority to police the use of the word.

reaperducer 2y ago

Never mistake yourself to be the arbiter of language Isn't that exactly what you just did?

zem 2y ago
"you're not the boss of me" does not mean "i am the boss"!
- mrayycombi 2y ago
  If I am not the boss of you, and you aren't the boss, then someone else is the boss of you. Did I miss something?
  - zem 2y ago
    yeah - the need for a boss in the first place. there simply isn't one.
    - mrayycombi 2y ago
      Bosses exist because they will themselves into it. Bosses aren't invented by rational necessity. Bosses make themselves boss. There's no need for anarchism either.
      - soulofmischief 2y ago
        If zem and I were in a room by ourselves, I don't think either of us would try to be "boss". Only once someone who supports such power structures, such as yourself, enters the picture, do we have to start protecting ourselves against such people. Have you read Lord of the Flies?
        mrayycombi 2y ago
        You may be right. You and Zem can live on an island in your anarchist utopia. Back to reality there are more bosses everywhere your philosophical position won't wish out of existence. You have a job, don't you?
        soulofmischief 2y ago
        I'm self-employed, and the existence of a top-down hierarchical power structure is not evidence that one is necessary. We're also now several straw mans away from the original argument.
        mrayycombi 2y ago
        I assert that necessity is self created. The Romans made themselves your boss. There was no "rational" necessity. Bosses come into existence by will, not logic. The world is irrational. Strawman are legitimate forms of persuasive argument, logic is for Spock.
        soulofmischief 2y ago
        There is nothing legitimate or persuasive about the flawed argument you're presenting.
Brian_K_White 2y ago
nope

mrayycombi 2y ago

We all got a$$holes and opinions and most of them stink. You give me your stinky opinion saying mine stinks. Well, you're wrong of course. A claim to "evolution" meaning "change" is simply an excuse for anything. Evolution is about selection and I'm the big bad wolf eating your baby children: you go extinct. That's evolution, not some cheesy anything goes resignation.

soulofmischief 2y ago
"Other people can do what they want" is not an opinion, it's a fact of life. You can deal with it, or you can get so upset that you try to physically stop them. Is that something you want to do over the use of language? Evolution is not about "selection", you're referring to a biological concept known as natural selection. I'm sorry to tell you, the evolution of a system simply means the development of the system over time. Feel free to check a dictionary. You should look up "homonym" while you're at it. For someone so bent on controlling the English language, you should put more time into understanding it.
- mrayycombi 2y ago
  People cant do what they want. What planet are you on? Laws, social norms, peer pressure, karma moderators are ALL telling you what to do. The only reason "evolution" is thrown around is bc of natural selection. To use evolution as a term is to imply it. And natural selection applies to cultures, behavior (see reinforcement learning, selection of responses by consequences) etc. There is no freedom anywhere.
  - soulofmischief 2y ago
    > People cant do what they want. What planet are you on? A planet where I can try to do anything I want, only stopped if what I am doing is being prevented by someone physically stopping me, such as an officer or concerned citizen. As per my post. > The only reason "evolution" is thrown around is bc of natural selection. To use evolution as a term is to imply it. https://ncse.ngo/defining-evolution https://ncse.ngo/defining-evolution > Initially, the Latin word evolutio meant the unrolling of a scroll https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evolution https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evolution > 2a: a process of change in a certain direction (unfolding) Your claims are easily falsifiable. The modern use of "evolution" in biology evolved after the word was already in use to mean change. You have no authority to police the use of the word.