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Genuinely asking, are we still trying to "stop" the climate change any more or are we in the "easing the incoming pain" phase already?

by liuliu 2y ago

cyberpunk 2y ago
We have a PhD student ecologist in the family and they've lost all hope. It's quite depressing. Doesn't look like the next round of world governments have it high on the agenda also.
- zombiwoof 2y ago
  Isn’t it sad , that our government and companies quickly solved AI energy problems by bootstrapping Nuclear again, but in 30 years can’t make a single unified decision on anything else
  - TeMPOraL 2y ago
    It'll be ironic if AI solves climate change by just existing, i.e. by giving the world a compelling reason to stop hiding behind austerity and anti-growth bullshit rhetoric, and to double down on energy production instead, thus forcing us to tackle the "how do we do it without cooking ourselves" problem up front, since it cannot be deferred.
  - cyberpunk 2y ago
    It won’t start moving until the boomer generation are out, I think. Let’s just hope we can do better when it’s our turn I guess.
beezlebroxxxxxx 2y ago
Powerful, and wealthy in particular, people are more interested in the latter than the former. When vast wealth is built off of maintaining the status-quo there is very little incentive for implementing changes that threaten the status-quo "organically." I get hope when I read this essay from Harpers [0]. But I actually think it will be more like Paolo Bacigalupi's "The Water Knife" [1]. [0]: https://harpers.org/archive/2021/06/prayer-for-a-just-war-finding-meaning-in-the-climate-fight/ https://harpers.org/archive/2021/06/prayer-for-a-just-war-fi... [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Water_Knife https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Water_Knife
basch 2y ago
do you mean stop as in reverse the trend by limiting bad behavior or do you mean stop like climate engineering. there is always the option to use science to modify the climate on purpose.

Genuinely asking, are we still trying to "stop" the climate change any more or are we in the "easing the incoming pain" phase already?

by liuliu 2y ago

Genuinely asking, are we still trying to "stop" the climate change any more or are we in the "easing the incoming pain" phase already?

cyberpunk 2y ago

We have a PhD student ecologist in the family and they've lost all hope. It's quite depressing. Doesn't look like the next round of world governments have it high on the agenda also.

zombiwoof 2y ago
Isn’t it sad , that our government and companies quickly solved AI energy problems by bootstrapping Nuclear again, but in 30 years can’t make a single unified decision on anything else
- TeMPOraL 2y ago
  It'll be ironic if AI solves climate change by just existing, i.e. by giving the world a compelling reason to stop hiding behind austerity and anti-growth bullshit rhetoric, and to double down on energy production instead, thus forcing us to tackle the "how do we do it without cooking ourselves" problem up front, since it cannot be deferred.
- cyberpunk 2y ago
  It won’t start moving until the boomer generation are out, I think. Let’s just hope we can do better when it’s our turn I guess.

beezlebroxxxxxx 2y ago

Powerful, and wealthy in particular, people are more interested in the latter than the former. When vast wealth is built off of maintaining the status-quo there is very little incentive for implementing changes that threaten the status-quo "organically." I get hope when I read this essay from Harpers [0]. But I actually think it will be more like Paolo Bacigalupi's "The Water Knife" [1]. [0]: https://harpers.org/archive/2021/06/prayer-for-a-just-war-finding-meaning-in-the-climate-fight/ https://harpers.org/archive/2021/06/prayer-for-a-just-war-fi... [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Water_Knife https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Water_Knife

basch 2y ago

do you mean stop as in reverse the trend by limiting bad behavior or do you mean stop like climate engineering. there is always the option to use science to modify the climate on purpose.