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It's not a partisan issue. The Charter is pretty clear on the limitations placed on protests. If those truckers had dispersed within a day they would have bee

It's not a partisan issue. The Charter is pretty clear on the limitations placed on protests. If those truckers had dispersed within a day they would have been fine. But they were accepting donations and foreign money in order to stay encamped and had no intention of dispersing.

cempaka 2y ago
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- bryanlarsen 2y ago
  The already repealed, provincial vaccine mandates they were protesting.
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- threeseed 2y ago
  > address a virus that in no way constituted an emergency 100s of thousands hospitalised. 60k dead. And that is with lockdowns. Seems like an emergency to me.
  - santoshalper 2y ago
    There is a backlash against COVID actions that is happening now, is because people are terrible at math and worse at assessing risk. The idea that COVID was not a valid emergency is pure historical revisionism with no base in fact or data.
    - cempaka 2y ago
      Public opinion polls consistently showed widespread overestimation of personal COVID risk across the political spectrum, and the policy response of reaching for poorly studied therapies and NPIs reflected this.
      - cruffle_duffle 2y ago
        Yup. Like orders and orders of magnitude off. People thought they’d have like a 10% of dying if they caught Covid when it was closer to 0.2% (and much less when you stratify by risk conditions). Public health did absolutely nothing to calm the public. In fact they intentionally stoked the panic fires and caused people to absolutely lose their minds.
        cempaka 2y ago
        I ran my personal risk profile through qcovid.org and it spat out a 1 in 80,000 chance of death and 1 in 3,000 chance of hospitalization. Any notion of taking a rush-to-market vaccine went out the window at that point. And before someone says "well what about your obligations to others?", my obligation was to my kids, to stay healthy and able to earn a living.
        cruffle_duffle 2y ago
        Fun fact: according to this article posted on HN today 1.1 million people in the US wind up in the emergency room from stair related injuries (https://www.axios.com/2025/01/05/elevators-escalators-regulations-buildings-construction https://www.axios.com/2025/01/05/elevators-escalators-regula...). Big numbers always sound big until they get put into context. All of the media and fearmongering public health “experts” loved to drop big numbers devoid of any context.
        cempaka 2y ago
        At times it was as though people believed no one had ever died before COVID, and never would die if only they could indefinitely avoid catching it.
        cruffle_duffle 2y ago
        Right? Like these people forgot their own mortality or something. I swear it was like something took a stick blender to people’s head and spun it around a bit. Some of the smartest people I knew absolutely lost their mind. They turned into feral animals, and I mean that in a very literal sense. …and the worst part is they were encouraged to act that way by The Experts. Good news is as verboten. Only bad news was allowed.
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orochimaaru 2y ago
Then arrest them. Debanking should be illegal. It denies you the right to do anything in the current age.
- Marsymars 2y ago
  Do you mean debanking by the government, or for any reasons? (Because banks will already algorithmically drop you as a customer without explanation or recourse, akin to how you can get your Google account algorithimically banned. TBH it would be more of an inconvenience to have my Google account banned than one of my bank accounts.)
  - FrontierProject 2y ago
    > TBH it would be more of an inconvenience to have my Google account banned than one of my bank accounts. Congratulations, you're in an extremely privileged segment of society. Most of those truckers would likely find it easier to relate to a little green Martian in a flying saucer than to you.
- akdev1l 2y ago
  Do you think banking is a charter right? Really confused. The banks can already choose not to do business with you for any reason or no reason at all. It’s in the pamphlets they give when you open an account.

cempaka 2y ago

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bryanlarsen 2y ago
The already repealed, provincial vaccine mandates they were protesting.
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threeseed 2y ago
> address a virus that in no way constituted an emergency 100s of thousands hospitalised. 60k dead. And that is with lockdowns. Seems like an emergency to me.
- santoshalper 2y ago
  There is a backlash against COVID actions that is happening now, is because people are terrible at math and worse at assessing risk. The idea that COVID was not a valid emergency is pure historical revisionism with no base in fact or data.
  - cempaka 2y ago
    Public opinion polls consistently showed widespread overestimation of personal COVID risk across the political spectrum, and the policy response of reaching for poorly studied therapies and NPIs reflected this.
    - cruffle_duffle 2y ago
      Yup. Like orders and orders of magnitude off. People thought they’d have like a 10% of dying if they caught Covid when it was closer to 0.2% (and much less when you stratify by risk conditions). Public health did absolutely nothing to calm the public. In fact they intentionally stoked the panic fires and caused people to absolutely lose their minds.
      - cempaka 2y ago
        I ran my personal risk profile through qcovid.org and it spat out a 1 in 80,000 chance of death and 1 in 3,000 chance of hospitalization. Any notion of taking a rush-to-market vaccine went out the window at that point. And before someone says "well what about your obligations to others?", my obligation was to my kids, to stay healthy and able to earn a living.
        cruffle_duffle 2y ago
        Fun fact: according to this article posted on HN today 1.1 million people in the US wind up in the emergency room from stair related injuries (https://www.axios.com/2025/01/05/elevators-escalators-regulations-buildings-construction https://www.axios.com/2025/01/05/elevators-escalators-regula...). Big numbers always sound big until they get put into context. All of the media and fearmongering public health “experts” loved to drop big numbers devoid of any context.
        cempaka 2y ago
        At times it was as though people believed no one had ever died before COVID, and never would die if only they could indefinitely avoid catching it.
        cruffle_duffle 2y ago
        Right? Like these people forgot their own mortality or something. I swear it was like something took a stick blender to people’s head and spun it around a bit. Some of the smartest people I knew absolutely lost their mind. They turned into feral animals, and I mean that in a very literal sense. …and the worst part is they were encouraged to act that way by The Experts. Good news is as verboten. Only bad news was allowed.

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orochimaaru 2y ago

Then arrest them. Debanking should be illegal. It denies you the right to do anything in the current age.

Marsymars 2y ago
Do you mean debanking by the government, or for any reasons? (Because banks will already algorithmically drop you as a customer without explanation or recourse, akin to how you can get your Google account algorithimically banned. TBH it would be more of an inconvenience to have my Google account banned than one of my bank accounts.)
- FrontierProject 2y ago
  > TBH it would be more of an inconvenience to have my Google account banned than one of my bank accounts. Congratulations, you're in an extremely privileged segment of society. Most of those truckers would likely find it easier to relate to a little green Martian in a flying saucer than to you.
akdev1l 2y ago
Do you think banking is a charter right? Really confused. The banks can already choose not to do business with you for any reason or no reason at all. It’s in the pamphlets they give when you open an account.