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First time i've seen cbc lite. I do like. 'true crime is somehow creating more crime for the justice system?' Is this the violent video games argument? The pr

First time i've seen cbc lite. I do like. 'true crime is somehow creating more crime for the justice system?' Is this the violent video games argument? The problem in Canada, we have insanely risen violent crime; tons of viral cases where people are out on bail less than 24 hours, were caught again committing more crime and being right back out on bail. Literally multiple holy wars occurring in the streets. South of us, the vast majority of the US states have now adopted constitutional carry. Conceal carry a handgun for your safety. Resulting in significantly less violent crime. Very easy choice to make as a politician. Canada did the opposite. There are hold outs in the usa trying to prevent guns being carried. They like Canada have similar violent crime problems. CBC's take on this issue, 'true crime is somehow creating more crime for the justice system?'

ceejayoz 2y ago
> Resulting in significantly less violent crime. Citation needed, because the numbers I'm aware of say the opposite; the US has one of the highest murder rates of all the high-income OECD nations, all of which have substantially stricter limits on concealed carry. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-rate-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-ra...
- incomingpain 2y ago
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  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    > Your source... I still await yours! > 1/3rd of the country are foreign born. Roughly the same for Canada. That's a challenge for your argument, considering their respective murder rate. > Making enemies with everyone, encouraging them to attack the usa domestically... ... can only explain a vanishingly small number of violent crimes in the US.
  - tptacek 2y ago
    "Gun control" has nothing whatsoever to do with the reason there's so much murder in Chicago.
avidiax 2y ago
I can see a sort of chicken and egg argument here, that guns coincide with violent crime as a reaction to that crime rather than a cause. My suspicion is that it's both reaction and cause. As to concealed carry preventing violent crime, I think there'd be little evidence for that. You can't legally brandish your firearm on people that haven't made any threat. It's up to the criminal to make that threat at a time and place of advantage. So smart criminals negate concealed carry with tactical advantage, and dumb criminals are too dumb to be afraid. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/04/28/red-states-have-higher-gun-death-rates-than-blue-states-heres-why/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/04/28/red-s...

ceejayoz 2y ago

> Resulting in significantly less violent crime. Citation needed, because the numbers I'm aware of say the opposite; the US has one of the highest murder rates of all the high-income OECD nations, all of which have substantially stricter limits on concealed carry. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-rate-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-ra...

incomingpain 2y ago
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- ceejayoz 2y ago
  > Your source... I still await yours! > 1/3rd of the country are foreign born. Roughly the same for Canada. That's a challenge for your argument, considering their respective murder rate. > Making enemies with everyone, encouraging them to attack the usa domestically... ... can only explain a vanishingly small number of violent crimes in the US.
- tptacek 2y ago
  "Gun control" has nothing whatsoever to do with the reason there's so much murder in Chicago.

avidiax 2y ago

I can see a sort of chicken and egg argument here, that guns coincide with violent crime as a reaction to that crime rather than a cause. My suspicion is that it's both reaction and cause. As to concealed carry preventing violent crime, I think there'd be little evidence for that. You can't legally brandish your firearm on people that haven't made any threat. It's up to the criminal to make that threat at a time and place of advantage. So smart criminals negate concealed carry with tactical advantage, and dumb criminals are too dumb to be afraid. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/04/28/red-states-have-higher-gun-death-rates-than-blue-states-heres-why/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/04/28/red-s...