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Sort of. They got the outcomes pretty close, but the movie was based on a premise of eugenics and equating poverty with low intelligence.

recursive 2y ago
Weird, when I saw it, it was equating poverty with low access to education and corresponding outcomes.
- readyplayernull 2y ago
  More like high access to media and consumerism.
- fwip 2y ago
  The intro of the movie makes it pretty clear that their premise is "IQ is heritable, and stupid people have more kids." It's not a coincidence that the "high IQ" couple is portrayed as wealthy and the "low IQ" people are shown as poor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TCsR_oSP2Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TCsR_oSP2Q
  - ternnoburn 2y ago
    Thank you. It's astonishing to me how few people remember the text of this movie -- it is so clearly saying dumb people are breeding, smart people are not.
    - recursive 2y ago
      It seems the dumb interpretation of the movie is spreading faster than the correct and literal one.
_yb2s 2y ago
The movie was based on the (indisputable?) fact that intelligence is heritable- but not Eugenics, which takes that a step further and advocates for people deciding which other people are inferior and superior and organizing society around that. One could argue that the movie tries to make a case for eugenics, but it didn’t directly do so. I think the movie could also be seen as looking at culture instead of genetics, and also assuming that is passed down from parents. I agree that it does wrongly depict poverty as a major indicator of intelligence.
- TeMPOraL 2y ago
  For better or worse, "eugenics" at this point is basically a cultural repulsion field surrounding most of practical aspects of genetics. You dare to even suggest there are measurable genetic differences between people, and someone will shout "eugenics", rounding any conversation down to "yeah nazis said the same thing".
  - _yb2s 2y ago
    I suspect your idea of “practical aspects of genetics” includes ideas about how people different from you shouldn’t be allowed reproduce, and very little about things like researching the function of a newly discovered microbial enzyme.
    - TeMPOraL 2y ago
      Not really. It does, however, include ideas such as "perhaps we should learn to correct genetic diseases directly in the reproductive cells", which is a rounding error away from someone saying something like you just did.

recursive 2y ago

Weird, when I saw it, it was equating poverty with low access to education and corresponding outcomes.

readyplayernull 2y ago
More like high access to media and consumerism.
fwip 2y ago
The intro of the movie makes it pretty clear that their premise is "IQ is heritable, and stupid people have more kids." It's not a coincidence that the "high IQ" couple is portrayed as wealthy and the "low IQ" people are shown as poor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TCsR_oSP2Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TCsR_oSP2Q
- ternnoburn 2y ago
  Thank you. It's astonishing to me how few people remember the text of this movie -- it is so clearly saying dumb people are breeding, smart people are not.
  - recursive 2y ago
    It seems the dumb interpretation of the movie is spreading faster than the correct and literal one.

_yb2s 2y ago

The movie was based on the (indisputable?) fact that intelligence is heritable- but not Eugenics, which takes that a step further and advocates for people deciding which other people are inferior and superior and organizing society around that. One could argue that the movie tries to make a case for eugenics, but it didn’t directly do so. I think the movie could also be seen as looking at culture instead of genetics, and also assuming that is passed down from parents. I agree that it does wrongly depict poverty as a major indicator of intelligence.

TeMPOraL 2y ago
For better or worse, "eugenics" at this point is basically a cultural repulsion field surrounding most of practical aspects of genetics. You dare to even suggest there are measurable genetic differences between people, and someone will shout "eugenics", rounding any conversation down to "yeah nazis said the same thing".
- _yb2s 2y ago
  I suspect your idea of “practical aspects of genetics” includes ideas about how people different from you shouldn’t be allowed reproduce, and very little about things like researching the function of a newly discovered microbial enzyme.
  - TeMPOraL 2y ago
    Not really. It does, however, include ideas such as "perhaps we should learn to correct genetic diseases directly in the reproductive cells", which is a rounding error away from someone saying something like you just did.