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Its been expected since before the Christmas break. There was a cabinet reshuffle, and its come out he's lost the support of his finance minister Chrystia Freel

Its been expected since before the Christmas break. There was a cabinet reshuffle, and its come out he's lost the support of his finance minister Chrystia Freeland, wasn't able to replace her with Marc Carney his top choice as Carney seems to be distancing himself from the current Govt on top of public support being at an all time low. Both the opposition Conservatives and the supporting NDP parties (NDP in particular was holding up the Liberal Minority Govt) have been planning non-confidence motions this month that would result in a new election. There was no path to victory for Trudeau after that, so the next best move is to resign and hope the liberals can pick a new leader before the next electoral cycle is too far along and avoid the issue the Democrats had by rushing to select a replacement candidate and alienating some portion of voters by doing so.

BenoitEssiambre 2y ago
Yup, I hear the top candidates to replace him are Chrystia Freeland or Marc Carney (maybe known to this community since he's on Stripe's board). These top candidates might not accept to play this round though as the chances of winning are slim in the current circumstances. Some people are calling the next leader of the party a "sacrificial lamb".
- hmmm-i-wonder 2y ago
  Its very possible the next candidate inherits the overall sentiment and is indeed a 'sacrificial lamb'. The anti-Trudeau sentiment is high, but if he steps back its an open question if the left wing/ABC crowd and centrists revisit their support for the liberal party. IMO Chrystia Freeland would be a great pick for the country. She was firm and capable during the NAFTA/USMCA renegotiations, and seems to have stood up against political games from the current administration to her eventual detriment of losing her cabinet position. Marc Carney certainly has appeal, but I can't help but see him as Ignatief 2.0 and that didn't go well with many Canadians.
  - I-M-S 2y ago
    Neither of them can reverse the Liberal fortunes. Chrystia Freeland was too close to Trudeau for too long (their fallout notwithstanding) to be perceived as anything than Trudeau 2.0 Marc Carney is a (two time!) head of a central bank - he hasn't got a chance in the current anti-elite climate.
    - hmmm-i-wonder 2y ago
      You are very likely correct. Then again I'm on the fence on Freeland, as are most of my circle as anecdotal as that is. Our issues with Trudeau don't completely extend to her, and if she differentiates herself well enough along a few lines she might get more support than traditionally expected from a Trudeau cabinet member. Or maybe that's wishful thinking. Our alternatives haven't done much in the way of proposing a viable alternative path and have focused almost explicitly on criticizing Trudeau and the parties actions. Its appealing to the "fuck trudeau" flag flyers but I do wonder if centrists will find the CPC appealing without a change in direction and messaging now Trudeau is leaving.

BenoitEssiambre 2y ago

Yup, I hear the top candidates to replace him are Chrystia Freeland or Marc Carney (maybe known to this community since he's on Stripe's board). These top candidates might not accept to play this round though as the chances of winning are slim in the current circumstances. Some people are calling the next leader of the party a "sacrificial lamb".

hmmm-i-wonder 2y ago
Its very possible the next candidate inherits the overall sentiment and is indeed a 'sacrificial lamb'. The anti-Trudeau sentiment is high, but if he steps back its an open question if the left wing/ABC crowd and centrists revisit their support for the liberal party. IMO Chrystia Freeland would be a great pick for the country. She was firm and capable during the NAFTA/USMCA renegotiations, and seems to have stood up against political games from the current administration to her eventual detriment of losing her cabinet position. Marc Carney certainly has appeal, but I can't help but see him as Ignatief 2.0 and that didn't go well with many Canadians.
- I-M-S 2y ago
  Neither of them can reverse the Liberal fortunes. Chrystia Freeland was too close to Trudeau for too long (their fallout notwithstanding) to be perceived as anything than Trudeau 2.0 Marc Carney is a (two time!) head of a central bank - he hasn't got a chance in the current anti-elite climate.
  - hmmm-i-wonder 2y ago
    You are very likely correct. Then again I'm on the fence on Freeland, as are most of my circle as anecdotal as that is. Our issues with Trudeau don't completely extend to her, and if she differentiates herself well enough along a few lines she might get more support than traditionally expected from a Trudeau cabinet member. Or maybe that's wishful thinking. Our alternatives haven't done much in the way of proposing a viable alternative path and have focused almost explicitly on criticizing Trudeau and the parties actions. Its appealing to the "fuck trudeau" flag flyers but I do wonder if centrists will find the CPC appealing without a change in direction and messaging now Trudeau is leaving.