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I am hoping the foundation they built will lead to greater things. So far it definitely has fallen flat compared to their demos. All I wanted was a way to talk/

I am hoping the foundation they built will lead to greater things. So far it definitely has fallen flat compared to their demos. All I wanted was a way to talk/text to siri in a natural way to get things done. It's better but far from perfect. I want to be able to easily create calendar events and interact with other native iOS APIs.

furyofantares 2y ago
They could be doing a lot better but it's a bit of a cursed problem. Natural language as input doesn't give you any information about where the boundaries are or what's possible. Meanwhile natural language can express anything, most of which any current implementation won't be able to do. So the user gets a blank canvas and all the associated problems with learning what to do, except it's worse because many things they think up will fail. And the main tool we have to guide the user through this fraught path is LLM output. Oof. I am hopeful that Apple will demonstrate their expertise in using some traditional UI to help alleviate some of these problems.
Someone 2y ago
> It's better but far from perfect. I’m not aware of any competition that’s perfect. I guess you meant to say the competition is better. I think it is, but that doesn’t mean their product isn’t a huge improvement. A simple example is text search in Photos.app. It probably misses text in some photos, but it helps me find quite a few photos. Similarly, face recognition in Photos.app is far from perfect, but way better than not having that feature. > I want to be able to easily create calendar events and interact with other native iOS APIs It’s not in Apple’s DNA to release a product here that mostly works. Chances are they’re working on something like that but don’t find it good enough to release it yet. What surprises me, though, is that they released the “get an AI summary of this web page” feature. That definitely produces some results that are very bad.
- infecto 2y ago
  Not talking about the competition. They failed to deliver what they had in demos. Clearly they were hoping to get it right in the last minute but seems far from the truth. All I wanted was a better Siri that played really well with native iOS apps. We dont have that yet and I am not sure if its purely a lack of power with on device models or if apple completely missed the mark in implementation.

furyofantares 2y ago

They could be doing a lot better but it's a bit of a cursed problem. Natural language as input doesn't give you any information about where the boundaries are or what's possible. Meanwhile natural language can express anything, most of which any current implementation won't be able to do. So the user gets a blank canvas and all the associated problems with learning what to do, except it's worse because many things they think up will fail. And the main tool we have to guide the user through this fraught path is LLM output. Oof. I am hopeful that Apple will demonstrate their expertise in using some traditional UI to help alleviate some of these problems.

Someone 2y ago

> It's better but far from perfect. I’m not aware of any competition that’s perfect. I guess you meant to say the competition is better. I think it is, but that doesn’t mean their product isn’t a huge improvement. A simple example is text search in Photos.app. It probably misses text in some photos, but it helps me find quite a few photos. Similarly, face recognition in Photos.app is far from perfect, but way better than not having that feature. > I want to be able to easily create calendar events and interact with other native iOS APIs It’s not in Apple’s DNA to release a product here that mostly works. Chances are they’re working on something like that but don’t find it good enough to release it yet. What surprises me, though, is that they released the “get an AI summary of this web page” feature. That definitely produces some results that are very bad.

infecto 2y ago
Not talking about the competition. They failed to deliver what they had in demos. Clearly they were hoping to get it right in the last minute but seems far from the truth. All I wanted was a better Siri that played really well with native iOS apps. We dont have that yet and I am not sure if its purely a lack of power with on device models or if apple completely missed the mark in implementation.