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> A working-poor friend also used to buy steel-cut oats That's funny reading oats as being described as a cheap breakfast here, while in the fitness/sports com

> A working-poor friend also used to buy steel-cut oats That's funny reading oats as being described as a cheap breakfast here, while in the fitness/sports community, oats are "the GOAT" of breakfast, without a focus on cost.

itake 2y ago
Oats can be very expensive, depending on where you are. When I was actively body building and on a business trip to Singapore, I couldn't find any reasonably priced oats at the the grocery store. When you're dieting, once you know the amount of what foods you need to eat, its much easier to stick to that plan vs trying to re-balance your macros and calories with a new food item.
- helboi4 2y ago
  Obviously you have to consider where the hell you're living. In the UK I eat oats all the time and they're dirt cheap. I knew a guy when I was in japan who ate oats every day. I thought he was absolutely insane. You could barely buy oats there. I ate brown rice mixed with barely to get nutrient rich grains because it was actually readily available and affordable. Let's not be stupid out here and act suprised when our ideal diet in one country is too expensive in a totally different climate - there are many plants in the world, use something else. Oats are only so revered in the west because they're a good thing that is AVAILABLE.
Cthulhu_ 2y ago
Sounds like gymrat gentrification of staples, like how cheap / mass produced dairy (by) products are now "fortified" with proteine (and in Dutch they make sure to use the fancy sounding "protein" instead of the colloquial "eiwit") and given black-and-white branding in their own section, sold for 2x the price. And the sellers are laughing all the way to the bank. Even if you're serious about sports / weighlifting etc, you don't actually need the specialised protein foods and shakes. Just have an extra bowl of yoghurt or low-fat cottage cheese and you've got a big chunk of extra protein in your diet already without spending extra or messing with calorie intake. The problem is that people look at e.g. oats or anything branded for "their" group and go all-in on it.
- Tenoke 2y ago
  A bowl of yogurt would help but is not really that much extra protein. Definitely not near the extra protein serious gym people attempt to consume. And that's if you can even process a high joghurt diet without issues which isn't the case for plenty of people.
  - wswope 2y ago
    > Definitely not near the extra protein serious gym people attempt to consume. Plenty of people exist who aim for >200g of protein daily - but that’s objectively overkill. There’s very little benefit, if any, to going over a half gram of protein per pound of body weight. https://mennohenselmans.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/ https://mennohenselmans.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein...
- mrits 2y ago
  In various types of training eating is the hardest part. Because you say "just have an extra bowl of yogurt" it lets me know you don't understand how hard it is to eat all of this food. This is the main reason protein powder is so prevalent.

itake 2y ago

Oats can be very expensive, depending on where you are. When I was actively body building and on a business trip to Singapore, I couldn't find any reasonably priced oats at the the grocery store. When you're dieting, once you know the amount of what foods you need to eat, its much easier to stick to that plan vs trying to re-balance your macros and calories with a new food item.

helboi4 2y ago
Obviously you have to consider where the hell you're living. In the UK I eat oats all the time and they're dirt cheap. I knew a guy when I was in japan who ate oats every day. I thought he was absolutely insane. You could barely buy oats there. I ate brown rice mixed with barely to get nutrient rich grains because it was actually readily available and affordable. Let's not be stupid out here and act suprised when our ideal diet in one country is too expensive in a totally different climate - there are many plants in the world, use something else. Oats are only so revered in the west because they're a good thing that is AVAILABLE.

Cthulhu_ 2y ago

Sounds like gymrat gentrification of staples, like how cheap / mass produced dairy (by) products are now "fortified" with proteine (and in Dutch they make sure to use the fancy sounding "protein" instead of the colloquial "eiwit") and given black-and-white branding in their own section, sold for 2x the price. And the sellers are laughing all the way to the bank. Even if you're serious about sports / weighlifting etc, you don't actually need the specialised protein foods and shakes. Just have an extra bowl of yoghurt or low-fat cottage cheese and you've got a big chunk of extra protein in your diet already without spending extra or messing with calorie intake. The problem is that people look at e.g. oats or anything branded for "their" group and go all-in on it.

Tenoke 2y ago
A bowl of yogurt would help but is not really that much extra protein. Definitely not near the extra protein serious gym people attempt to consume. And that's if you can even process a high joghurt diet without issues which isn't the case for plenty of people.
- wswope 2y ago
  > Definitely not near the extra protein serious gym people attempt to consume. Plenty of people exist who aim for >200g of protein daily - but that’s objectively overkill. There’s very little benefit, if any, to going over a half gram of protein per pound of body weight. https://mennohenselmans.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/ https://mennohenselmans.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein...
mrits 2y ago
In various types of training eating is the hardest part. Because you say "just have an extra bowl of yogurt" it lets me know you don't understand how hard it is to eat all of this food. This is the main reason protein powder is so prevalent.