This is what most people don't understand or don't want to understand. If the value proposition for antisocial behavior is positive when successful and zero wh

This is what most people don't understand or don't want to understand. If the value proposition for antisocial behavior is positive when successful and zero when caught, then antisocial people will keep trying. Self-policing or teaching them to be "well-behaved" does not work. Many of them don't feel shame or remorse, some from birth, some because or psychological adaptations later in life. If their goal is to climb the ladder, get rich, get famous, they will not care how many people they hurt along the way unless the rest of society makes them lose something they value. The value proposition needs to be sufficiently negative to offset the potential payoff.