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I don't get the "Math Notes" example. Why does this need AI? Isn't this just Calca[1] but with extra steps? [1] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/calca/id635757879
by AlexandrB 2y ago
I don't get the "Math Notes" example. Why does this need AI? Isn't this just Calca[1] but with extra steps?
[1] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/calca/id635757879 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/calca/id635757879
- bigiain 2y agoWhy does this need AI? Isn't this just dividing by two, which you can easily do in your head? (I get that not everybody bothers doing vaguely complex mental arithmetic, but dividing by two? Come on!)
- jitl 2y agoThe point is algebra system, it’s quite good for unit conversion, budgeting, etc - lots of things a spreadsheet does great but seems a bit overkill for. Algebra big improvement over basic arithmetic calculator power.
- krackers 2y agoAlso seen in Soulver.
- wahnfrieden 2y agoSoulver is text entry not drawn
- krackers 2y agoBut this still doesn't need AI, unless we're calling OCR "AI" now
- fragmede 2y agoHow else do you get the O and 0's correct? Building a handwriting recognizer is one of the first things you learn to do in AI-writing class.
- jasomill 2y agoAssume words don't contain numbers and numbers don't contain words, then provide a convenient UI for selecting alternatives? For fielded input matching known patterns, recognition can also be constrained by pattern matching and general validation rules (e.g., VINs are 17 characters long, cannot contain the letters I, O, or Q, and, given prior information in other fields, can be further constrained by manufacturer code, model year, and by requiring a correct check digit).
- wahnfrieden 2y agoShow us any prior OCR that can read hand drawn formulas beyond the most basic single line expressions
- int_19h 2y agoI don't recall the name of the app, but drawing formulas, equations etc with a finger was a thing on Android like 10 years ago. And it did things like a mix of fractions and square roots etc just fine.
- BlueTemplar 2y agoIf by "AI", you mean "neural network", rather than "program/machine", then still : hasn't OCR already been using neural networks for many decades ??
- wahnfrieden 2y agoCalca is text entry not drawn
- bathtub365 2y agoMath notes also works with text entry.
- swiftcoder 2y agoIndeed, but that's obviously not the impressive part. Wolfram alpha demonstrated the text-entry version a decade ago...
- jimbob45 2y agoWas going to say the same thing. Wolfram Alpha has been doing MathNotes for 16 years now. I seriously doubt AppInt will ever come close to the depth that Wolfram has.
- anon7000 2y agoCala with less steps, technically. No extra apps or text syntax to learn. Just drawing the math you learned in school as if on paper
- AlexandrB 2y agoThe extra steps are the (probably at least) 10x compute this requires to do the same thing.
- cornstalks 2y agoThe "Math Notes" thing is absolutely infuriating to me. I use TextEdit on macOS for various notes and the forced math autocomplete (with no way to turn it off) has pushed me away from TextEdit entirely.
- dmd 2y agoDo you mean Notes? TextEdit doesn't support this functionality at all.
- cornstalks 2y agoI mean TextEdit. It definitely supports this to some degree, at least. Try typing “4 * 2 =” on a new line. Heck even Safari on my phone autofilled “8” when typing this comment.
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- dmd 2y agoAh - you can turn this off with keyboard - text input - input sources - edit - show inline predictive text
- cornstalks 2y agoSweet mercy I don't know how I didn't find that or how to thank you enough!
- cornstalks 2y agoWait actually that doesn't work. TextEdit still autocompletes the friggin' math.
- ifyouwantto 2y agoThis smelled like one of those things where they've applied a certain behavior to an entire class of widget for consistency's sake, and TextEdit just happens to use that widget. If so, it'd be controlled at the system settings level. Sure enough: System Settings -> Keyboard -> (under the "text input" area) Edit... (button next to your primary keyboard language) -> toggle "Show Inline Predictive Text" If you want to easily switch between having it and not, I bet you can set a second keyboard with the same language but a different setting there and use the quick keyboard switcher widget/shortcuts (I did not try this, though). Or there's probably a way to shortcut it with AppleScript or some other automation thingy with ten minutes of effort (mostly googling).