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> Extradition should only be for cases where someone is physically present in a country where they commit a crime then later skip the country to avoid being cau

> Extradition should only be for cases where someone is physically present in a country where they commit a crime then later skip the country to avoid being caught. Not talking about MU or anyone/anything else in particular, but... If you run a criminal enterprise that does the majority of its business in the US, and you live overseas you can (and should be) subjugated to US laws. Even for non-criminal enterprises, you don't get to play around with another country, breaking its laws. Why should a criminal enterprise be treated differently?

GuiA 14y ago
>If you run a criminal enterprise that does the majority of its business in the US, and you live overseas you can (and should be) subjugated to US laws. >Even for non-criminal enterprises, you don't get to play around with another country, breaking its laws. Why should a criminal enterprise be treated differently? Yes, I'm sure a lot of Iraqis would love to see American soldiers who killed/tortured their civilians judged in their own country. I have a feeling that you might change your tune on this one though... ;)
grecy 14y ago
So millions of American women can be extradited to certain Arab nations because they've posted photos online of themselves without their heads covered, contrary to the local law. By doing it on the internet, they are "exposing" themselves to millions of people where that is illegal, and therefore should be extradited for it. Even the passport photo of millions of American women is illegal in certain countries... seeings that's an international document, surely they've broken the law in those countries, no?
- powertower 14y ago
  I don't see the similarity of a person posting pictures of self on facebook, and a criminal enterprise knowingly and willfully generating revenue through copyright crimes. Really, I don't. Even if you ignore that some countries have extradition treaties which spell out exactly at what level this can happen (btw, US and Iran don't). But if you love analogies, I'm sure I can come up with one even more ridiculous, that would show my case.
  - grecy 14y ago
    My analogy is to show that extradition for breaking the law of country A while being in country B is completely ridiculous. We're all breaking the laws of countries we're not in this very second. Maybe before the internet it was easier and made more sense. Now it's completely insane.
  - disordinary 14y ago
    In some countries showing skin is illegal, just like in some countries posting a service that can be used for piracy is illegal, the analogy is correct - excepting the lack of extradition agreements.

GuiA 14y ago

>If you run a criminal enterprise that does the majority of its business in the US, and you live overseas you can (and should be) subjugated to US laws. >Even for non-criminal enterprises, you don't get to play around with another country, breaking its laws. Why should a criminal enterprise be treated differently? Yes, I'm sure a lot of Iraqis would love to see American soldiers who killed/tortured their civilians judged in their own country. I have a feeling that you might change your tune on this one though... ;)

grecy 14y ago

So millions of American women can be extradited to certain Arab nations because they've posted photos online of themselves without their heads covered, contrary to the local law. By doing it on the internet, they are "exposing" themselves to millions of people where that is illegal, and therefore should be extradited for it. Even the passport photo of millions of American women is illegal in certain countries... seeings that's an international document, surely they've broken the law in those countries, no?

powertower 14y ago
I don't see the similarity of a person posting pictures of self on facebook, and a criminal enterprise knowingly and willfully generating revenue through copyright crimes. Really, I don't. Even if you ignore that some countries have extradition treaties which spell out exactly at what level this can happen (btw, US and Iran don't). But if you love analogies, I'm sure I can come up with one even more ridiculous, that would show my case.
- grecy 14y ago
  My analogy is to show that extradition for breaking the law of country A while being in country B is completely ridiculous. We're all breaking the laws of countries we're not in this very second. Maybe before the internet it was easier and made more sense. Now it's completely insane.
- disordinary 14y ago
  In some countries showing skin is illegal, just like in some countries posting a service that can be used for piracy is illegal, the analogy is correct - excepting the lack of extradition agreements.