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Excellent work, ^-KewLGuY-^. I'd say that's the most "13-year-old in the 2000s" nick ever, but that honor probably goes to xXSephiroth666Xx. Yours is up there t
by bitwize 2y ago
Excellent work, ^-KewLGuY-^. I'd say that's the most "13-year-old in the 2000s" nick ever, but that honor probably goes to xXSephiroth666Xx. Yours is up there though.
Eric S. Raymond recently posted some xeets about how retrocomputing nostalgia is due, in part, to wistfulness for the Cambrian explosion in personal computers, where every little two-bit company comes up with their own wildly different design. The design space hadn't been fully explored yet, and the future seemed pregnant with endless possibility. Then as people figured out what worked and what didn't in the computer design space, the PC sorta won, and it made much more sense to build a PC clone and take advantage of the huge PC hardware and software ecosystem. Raymond predicts that a similar coalescing on proven designs will happen with 3D printers.
Of course, ESR believes in the need for government slightly less than he believes in the need for redemption through the blood of Christ the Saviour, so he overlooks a critical forcing factor in this cycle of exploring the solution space followed by settling on proven designs: regulation. Cars were much cooler before the 1970s because the Clean Air Act was passed in the 1970s. There was an initial struggle period during which American autos shipped with anemic engines and features designed to compensate for lack of performance, until technologies like fuel injection became the norm, but again the automakers coalesced into a set of a few designs that both worked and fulfilled the obligations imposed by regulatory bodies... to the point where it's awful hard to tell a Toyota RAV-4 from a Honda CR-V just by looking.
I think the internet has gone through a similar exploratory vs. coalescing phase. Back in the 90s and 2000s, HTML and PHP let you create anything, so people created everything. And threw it up on a server, and it was wonderful. So many individual corners of the web with their authors' own perspectives. Now... well, regulation is definitely coming but in the meantime there are things with the force of regulatory bodies you have to worry about. You HAVE to do https which means you need a certificate. You HAVE to have a CDN and CloudFlare protection or else you'll be slashdot-effected or DDoS'd to oblivion. You can't even run an email server anymore without jumping through the hoops it takes to convince major providers you're not a spam farm. These are things you have to either think about yourself or pay someone to think about them for you. So the web has coalesced on a few best-practice designs and service providers. And most people just set up Wix or Shopify pages or Facebook groups anyway.
And that's why the 90s/2000s web has such nostalgic power. We could do anything from our armchairs with a bit of HTML and maybe some programming and sysadmin skills. But those days are gone. Maybe we're better off for it.
- toast0 2y ago> You HAVE to do https which means you need a certificate. This is kind of true, but, getting a cert isn't a big deal anymore. If you're not a big company, a free cert works fine. > You HAVE to have a CDN and CloudFlare protection or else you'll be slashdot-effected or DDoS'd to oblivion. DDoS is hard to manage, but otherwise it shouldn't be too hard to handle a /. kind of event if your page is reasonable and you make use of the abundance of modern computing... 1G cheap hosting is out there. > You can't even run an email server anymore without jumping through the hoops it takes to convince major providers you're not a spam farm. Yeah, this one sucks a lot. But, email is dead, so...
- MrVandemar 2y ago> But, email is dead, so... What an extraordinary claim! My job, today, is dealing with a vast influx of various types of email that all need categorising and a range of different actions. Not very dead at all from where I'm standing.
- Cthulhu_ 2y agoIt's like claiming Skype is dead but my last job was at a small company with many international customers and Skype was still their daily driver for international calls.
- metalman 2y agoI see the above discussion as a describing a process, very much like evolution, with web sites bieng the species of interest, and how they are bieng shaped by, internal competition, for resouces (and prey), errr food, preditors, parisites, and environomental changes. neat!
- noirscape 2y agoEmail will never die, no matter how much most people want it to do so. The protocol is arguably the best proof of "worse is better", which is why it's held out for so long.
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