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I like the open source aspect, I've been looking for an ethical dating app for a long time, and based on the README it looks awesome! But then I clicked onto th

I like the open source aspect, I've been looking for an ethical dating app for a long time, and based on the README it looks awesome! But then I clicked onto the site, and things did a 180, based on the edgy marketing copy on the landing page I don't think this is the site I'm looking for, as 'normie' as that might make me. > There’s plenty of dating apps out there: Tinder, Bumble, OkCupid, Boo, Hinge. We think they’re all great apps... For normies! But a terminally-online meme-enjoying degenerate like yourself needs something more. That’s why we invented Duolicious! > Duolicious is the dating app that helps you find your Discord-lurking, Reddit-updooting, Nigerian-basketweaving-forum-posting, chronically-online soulmate. Our fun personality quiz helps you meet like-minded people, and shows you a new match for every answer you give, thanks to our fancy matching algorithm.

coro_1 2y ago
> Tinder, Bumble, OkCupid, Boo, Hinge. We think they’re all great apps... For normies! Their business models need more transparency. Donations from couples who have achieved milestones on all apps as a means of sustaining the business, could realistically make the world a better place.
- progmetaldev 2y ago
  It's just extremely difficult to get any money (including donations) after you've hit the end of the "marketing funnel." People meet, are happy, and won't look back. Maybe a "first time is free," type of arrangement?
PaulHoule 2y ago
The only people who think like think those are "great" apps are successfully promiscuous people around big cities with vast dating pools.
- petre 2y ago
  I wonder how they get away from becoming prostitution as a service apps.
  - PaulHoule 2y ago
    Prostitution means somebody pays for sex. Promiscuous people have many partners.
progmetaldev 2y ago
Unfortunately, I don't think we're going to ever be getting an ethical dating app. It may be ethical as far as not charging users to connect, or not trying to keep users constantly staying single so they are always using and checking the app. Without that "addiction" potential, I think even a completely open dating app would fail miserably. If people were able to connect and move on quickly, there would be little reason for the app-creators to continue developing. I say this as someone that has spent the last few years wading through various dating apps, looking for a monogamous relationship. The best luck I've had with dating (after using Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, and Facebook Dating) has been finding local Facebook singles groups, and just chatting. I can be nervous and awkward, but I'm able to fake it in person, and online it's easy for me to have conversations with others about interests. Also, instead of trying to be a "normie" (although you didn't say you were doing this, so this may not apply), lean into what makes you unique and try to find the same or something compatible in someone else. Going through apps is not fun, but I have met a ton of different people that I don't think I ever would have interacted with if I hadn't gone through dating apps or chatting with strangers. To be clear, the language isn't "fun" for anyone that has dealt with any of the things they mention!
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- marci 2y ago
  > If people were able to connect and move on quickly, there would be little reason for the app-creators to continue developing. If an open-source piece of tech is working as advertised, why would its devs continue working on a finished product?
  - verdverm 2y ago
    Security, the world outside of the app is constantly changing, would not want a known exploit used to obtain access to my responses to a subset of the 2000+ questions i.e., software is never finished
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  Ethical dating sites are possible and have existed. But they dfintiely can't exist in this current landscape. Like you said, an app who's goal is ultimately to stop people from using the app is not one that will get the funding needed to stand out from all the Match.com shell companies. > lean into what makes you unique and try to find the same or something compatible in someone else. This part is cultural though, and the fact is most people (regardless of gender) are not looking for "unique". Quite the contrary. I suppose that is a bit of why the "normie" nomenclature is not as far off as you first think.
mrayycombi 2y ago
Admit it. You just don't want people to know you're into Nigerian basket weaving.
- amyames 2y ago
  Duolicious openly mocks its own users on Twitter. Calling them “chuds” and such. I guess if the shoe fits, wear it. But what a childish company to advertise on 4chan and market itself as being for that audience, to then sit there using condescending and derogatory slurs about them. Nice of them to open source everything so you can go make your own Duolicious with blackjack and hookers I guess.
  - lmm 2y ago
    > But what a childish company to advertise on 4chan and market itself as being for that audience, to then sit there using condescending and derogatory slurs about them. Lol. It's just bants, no-one in that community minds. On the contrary, a company that tried to appeal to the 4chan audience without insulting them would be an obvious astroturfer/poser.
    - amyames 2y ago
      Possibly. I tried to follow along but didnt get it/couldnt hang.
  - npteljes 2y ago
    That's just them playing into being "terminally online" - and, I'd wager, being really terminally online, but also presenting it as a joke, for it to be more palatable publicly.
Beijinger 2y ago
https://alovoa.com/ https://alovoa.com/ is open source. We thought for a while to use it to start our own dating up. But it is so hard to get off the ground...
- internetter 2y ago
  Oooh I like this one much more, I wonder how active it is..

coro_1 2y ago

> Tinder, Bumble, OkCupid, Boo, Hinge. We think they’re all great apps... For normies! Their business models need more transparency. Donations from couples who have achieved milestones on all apps as a means of sustaining the business, could realistically make the world a better place.

progmetaldev 2y ago
It's just extremely difficult to get any money (including donations) after you've hit the end of the "marketing funnel." People meet, are happy, and won't look back. Maybe a "first time is free," type of arrangement?

PaulHoule 2y ago

The only people who think like think those are "great" apps are successfully promiscuous people around big cities with vast dating pools.

petre 2y ago
I wonder how they get away from becoming prostitution as a service apps.
- PaulHoule 2y ago
  Prostitution means somebody pays for sex. Promiscuous people have many partners.

progmetaldev 2y ago

Unfortunately, I don't think we're going to ever be getting an ethical dating app. It may be ethical as far as not charging users to connect, or not trying to keep users constantly staying single so they are always using and checking the app. Without that "addiction" potential, I think even a completely open dating app would fail miserably. If people were able to connect and move on quickly, there would be little reason for the app-creators to continue developing. I say this as someone that has spent the last few years wading through various dating apps, looking for a monogamous relationship. The best luck I've had with dating (after using Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, and Facebook Dating) has been finding local Facebook singles groups, and just chatting. I can be nervous and awkward, but I'm able to fake it in person, and online it's easy for me to have conversations with others about interests. Also, instead of trying to be a "normie" (although you didn't say you were doing this, so this may not apply), lean into what makes you unique and try to find the same or something compatible in someone else. Going through apps is not fun, but I have met a ton of different people that I don't think I ever would have interacted with if I hadn't gone through dating apps or chatting with strangers. To be clear, the language isn't "fun" for anyone that has dealt with any of the things they mention!

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marci 2y ago
> If people were able to connect and move on quickly, there would be little reason for the app-creators to continue developing. If an open-source piece of tech is working as advertised, why would its devs continue working on a finished product?
- verdverm 2y ago
  Security, the world outside of the app is constantly changing, would not want a known exploit used to obtain access to my responses to a subset of the 2000+ questions i.e., software is never finished
johnnyanmac 2y ago
Ethical dating sites are possible and have existed. But they dfintiely can't exist in this current landscape. Like you said, an app who's goal is ultimately to stop people from using the app is not one that will get the funding needed to stand out from all the Match.com shell companies. > lean into what makes you unique and try to find the same or something compatible in someone else. This part is cultural though, and the fact is most people (regardless of gender) are not looking for "unique". Quite the contrary. I suppose that is a bit of why the "normie" nomenclature is not as far off as you first think.

mrayycombi 2y ago

Admit it. You just don't want people to know you're into Nigerian basket weaving.

amyames 2y ago
Duolicious openly mocks its own users on Twitter. Calling them “chuds” and such. I guess if the shoe fits, wear it. But what a childish company to advertise on 4chan and market itself as being for that audience, to then sit there using condescending and derogatory slurs about them. Nice of them to open source everything so you can go make your own Duolicious with blackjack and hookers I guess.
- lmm 2y ago
  > But what a childish company to advertise on 4chan and market itself as being for that audience, to then sit there using condescending and derogatory slurs about them. Lol. It's just bants, no-one in that community minds. On the contrary, a company that tried to appeal to the 4chan audience without insulting them would be an obvious astroturfer/poser.
  - amyames 2y ago
    Possibly. I tried to follow along but didnt get it/couldnt hang.
- npteljes 2y ago
  That's just them playing into being "terminally online" - and, I'd wager, being really terminally online, but also presenting it as a joke, for it to be more palatable publicly.

Beijinger 2y ago

https://alovoa.com/ https://alovoa.com/ is open source. We thought for a while to use it to start our own dating up. But it is so hard to get off the ground...

internetter 2y ago
Oooh I like this one much more, I wonder how active it is..