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He does far more than write checks and even if that was truly all he did the fact that he put his personal wealth into both Tesla and then SpaceX when there was

He does far more than write checks and even if that was truly all he did the fact that he put his personal wealth into both Tesla and then SpaceX when there was no reasonable expectation for success is on its own highly commendable. Nobody built rockets the way SpaceX does, and SpaceX - full-stop - would not exist without his involvement. I find his personality and views largely repugnant, but denigrating his accomplishments is beyond the pale. Obnoxious tweets and incendiary messaging does not mean we ought not appreciate his impact.

fuzzylightbulb 2y ago
I care about a well functioning democracy that serves the populace infinitely more than I care about tesla or spacex. His accomplishments mean nothing relative to his active destruction of a just and functional society for regular people. The ends do not justify his means. And that's to say nothing of how completely insufferable musk and his apologists are.
- daseiner1 2y ago
  In democracy, the people get what they deserve. But I’m largely anti-democracy and anti-populace, so we’re gonna be orthogonal here.
  - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
    Well, who knows what’s in it for the US. Trump already said that when he comes back to power he ain’t leaving (or that there will be no need to elect again, can’t remember exactly).
rad_gruchalski 2y ago
> Obnoxious tweets and incendiary messaging does not mean we ought not appreciate his impact. Nobody would pay attention if his words didn’t make any impact. But they do and I think even he doesn’t realise what the consequences of his actions may be. It’s one thing him controlling the president of the US, it’s another thing him trying to have impact half a world away. Does he really think that nazis from ex-DDR will be buying teslas when AfD comes to power? What’s his angle? Ego because the son became a daughter and he blames it on woke culture? The man is risking destabilising the world for who knows what reasons. Most Germans loved Hitler, remember that. I absolutely don’t care about SpaceX, neither Tesla. Shrug, don’t care.

fuzzylightbulb 2y ago

I care about a well functioning democracy that serves the populace infinitely more than I care about tesla or spacex. His accomplishments mean nothing relative to his active destruction of a just and functional society for regular people. The ends do not justify his means. And that's to say nothing of how completely insufferable musk and his apologists are.

daseiner1 2y ago
In democracy, the people get what they deserve. But I’m largely anti-democracy and anti-populace, so we’re gonna be orthogonal here.
- rad_gruchalski 2y ago
  Well, who knows what’s in it for the US. Trump already said that when he comes back to power he ain’t leaving (or that there will be no need to elect again, can’t remember exactly).

rad_gruchalski 2y ago

> Obnoxious tweets and incendiary messaging does not mean we ought not appreciate his impact. Nobody would pay attention if his words didn’t make any impact. But they do and I think even he doesn’t realise what the consequences of his actions may be. It’s one thing him controlling the president of the US, it’s another thing him trying to have impact half a world away. Does he really think that nazis from ex-DDR will be buying teslas when AfD comes to power? What’s his angle? Ego because the son became a daughter and he blames it on woke culture? The man is risking destabilising the world for who knows what reasons. Most Germans loved Hitler, remember that. I absolutely don’t care about SpaceX, neither Tesla. Shrug, don’t care.