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LLMs are an ad-free version of google search. If you use LLMs with this expectation, it'll be improvement of software engineering productivity.

bflesch 2y ago
AI bros downvoting this argument every time because they can't handle the truth. For people who can't install ublock origin, LLMs are a god-sent. AI bros want to keep living in their bubble where they grift millions of dollars for a better google search.
- kbelder 2y ago
  In fairness, a better Google search is worth millions of dollars. And I agree that the primary virtue of coding with current AI is that it just cuts time that is spent looking through multiple pages of junky search results. It's not necessarily better or more accurate, but it is far faster. I'd even say that AI coding would be far less appealing if Google hadn't let its search results go to crap over the last ten years.
- boshalfoshal 2y ago
  I mean this is clearly an incorrect take? Google search cannot reason about its contents autonomously, nor synthesize out of sample data from the things it indexes. Google search is a query over user generated content. LLMs generate content. These are fundamentally different things. Even if ChatGPT was just "lossy google" it is a much better UX than searching documents that google returns, since it can just synthesize what I want to hear in a few paragraphs, whereas with Google search I would have to know what to search and synthesize the response I'm looking for after analyzing a few things. There is an argument to be made here that we are eroding the value of intelligence and thinking for ourselves, but as a _product_ its vastly better, imo. Whether or not LLMs actually lead to AGI is yet to be seen though. But I definitely think it has reasoning capabilities that you are underating in your comparison.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  “AI bros” have learned how to use “AI” to automate 30-40-50..% of what they used to have to do manually while others are bitching about “AI bros” on online forums. who knows, knows. who doesn’t bitches online :)

bflesch 2y ago

AI bros downvoting this argument every time because they can't handle the truth. For people who can't install ublock origin, LLMs are a god-sent. AI bros want to keep living in their bubble where they grift millions of dollars for a better google search.

kbelder 2y ago
In fairness, a better Google search is worth millions of dollars. And I agree that the primary virtue of coding with current AI is that it just cuts time that is spent looking through multiple pages of junky search results. It's not necessarily better or more accurate, but it is far faster. I'd even say that AI coding would be far less appealing if Google hadn't let its search results go to crap over the last ten years.
boshalfoshal 2y ago
I mean this is clearly an incorrect take? Google search cannot reason about its contents autonomously, nor synthesize out of sample data from the things it indexes. Google search is a query over user generated content. LLMs generate content. These are fundamentally different things. Even if ChatGPT was just "lossy google" it is a much better UX than searching documents that google returns, since it can just synthesize what I want to hear in a few paragraphs, whereas with Google search I would have to know what to search and synthesize the response I'm looking for after analyzing a few things. There is an argument to be made here that we are eroding the value of intelligence and thinking for ourselves, but as a _product_ its vastly better, imo. Whether or not LLMs actually lead to AGI is yet to be seen though. But I definitely think it has reasoning capabilities that you are underating in your comparison.
bdangubic 2y ago
“AI bros” have learned how to use “AI” to automate 30-40-50..% of what they used to have to do manually while others are bitching about “AI bros” on online forums. who knows, knows. who doesn’t bitches online :)