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I do too, but I don’t think it’s enough. I’ve noticed over the years that so many people are experiencing this thing where their parents are adopting extreme id

I do too, but I don’t think it’s enough. I’ve noticed over the years that so many people are experiencing this thing where their parents are adopting extreme ideas based on what they’ve picked up while scrolling through Facebook.

MrMcCall 2y ago
We must first tune our own sense of truth and compassion to point our moral compass in the right direction. My parents have fallen victim to FoxNews' cult of dishonesty and fascism. I am at their service, but they don't want the truth, so they continue wondering in the darkness, not even caring to experience our extraordinarily delightful and accomplished children. As to our children, they have never had either a smartphone or unmonitored access to the internet. It's that simple. Through the twist of fate that is the pandemic combined with living in public housing, they were already home-schooled as they didn't need to be around other adolescents watching "Game of Thrones" or porn, or listening to Black Metal or the more ignorant kinds of Hip Hop (glorifying wealth, violence, objectification of women, and braggadocio). We are each the product of many different cultures, which we then combine into our own individual cultural worldview. Few people appear able to apersonally evaluate their cultural tendencies, so they are susceptible to influence from the dishonest, immoral and/or belligerent. They were raised with compassion and taught why we should be as compassionate as possible to every single person, and that makes them a delight for every single person they encounter. I have found that surrounding them by good people, ideas, attitudes, and behaviors was important to their development. Keeping them away from submorons who are both ignorant and overconfident is an important factor in the development of young adults. I know this deeply because -- while not myself belligerent -- I was a total dipshi_t as a teenager. I do not blame my parents for my idiocy, for they worked their asses off to provide for us. I blame our society for not facilitating our being able to have responsible adults around to educate myself and my peers. My first rule of parenting is to not let children raise children. When left to their own devices (PNI), they tend to gravitate to the worst ideas, and the younger kids will learn from their elders' abyssmal examples.
paganel 2y ago
That’s “extreme” only to their children, who most probably (the children, that is) hold very extreme beliefs themselves, such as smaller pensions and reduced State-supported assistance for the elderly. It is true, those (relatively younger) children think that they still hold the Gramcsian hegemony-like hold on what’s considered to be the “truth”, and hence the non-“extreme”, but that has stopped happening with the advent of social networks and the democratization of information (think of how happy everyone was about that democratization via social media when the Arab Spring started).
- saagarjha 2y ago
  ??? Where did all this come from?
  - paganel 2y ago
    Don't you have friends in their 30s, even 40s, asking for the pensions to go down? And for the old people to die off soon enough because they're keeping all of us (younger people) down, with their (the old people's) voting habits being a very good example of that? Because I certainly do have those type of friends and acquaintances. Or maybe it's just an Eastern-European thing and further West there's no inter-generational war.
    - saagarjha 2y ago
      We don't really have pensions in the US (anymore). There is a meme of baby boomers cashing out of Social Security and leaving it unreplenished for future generations. I don't think "let's kill off the older people" is a common viewpoint but "the old people vote against our interests and I am waiting for them to die" is.
      - paganel 2y ago
        Artificially keeping the stock exchange up (and inflated), no matter the consequences, is a form of State-sponsored pension, even though technically it is all private money. Somebody should write a study to show the correlation between the pension funds getting bigger and bigger and the number of companies getting in/out of the the S&P500 or Dow Jones getting lower and lower over time. That second number getting lower and lower means less innovation, means less real wealth going into the future, means less real money for people who are now in their 30s and 40s. I’d say that many of the NIMBY policies also respect that premise, i.e. government-supported decisions that help keep the wealth among the elderly by (artificially) keeping the existing home prices up (and it is known that those houses are some of the most important assets that said elderly people own).

MrMcCall 2y ago

We must first tune our own sense of truth and compassion to point our moral compass in the right direction. My parents have fallen victim to FoxNews' cult of dishonesty and fascism. I am at their service, but they don't want the truth, so they continue wondering in the darkness, not even caring to experience our extraordinarily delightful and accomplished children. As to our children, they have never had either a smartphone or unmonitored access to the internet. It's that simple. Through the twist of fate that is the pandemic combined with living in public housing, they were already home-schooled as they didn't need to be around other adolescents watching "Game of Thrones" or porn, or listening to Black Metal or the more ignorant kinds of Hip Hop (glorifying wealth, violence, objectification of women, and braggadocio). We are each the product of many different cultures, which we then combine into our own individual cultural worldview. Few people appear able to apersonally evaluate their cultural tendencies, so they are susceptible to influence from the dishonest, immoral and/or belligerent. They were raised with compassion and taught why we should be as compassionate as possible to every single person, and that makes them a delight for every single person they encounter. I have found that surrounding them by good people, ideas, attitudes, and behaviors was important to their development. Keeping them away from submorons who are both ignorant and overconfident is an important factor in the development of young adults. I know this deeply because -- while not myself belligerent -- I was a total dipshi_t as a teenager. I do not blame my parents for my idiocy, for they worked their asses off to provide for us. I blame our society for not facilitating our being able to have responsible adults around to educate myself and my peers. My first rule of parenting is to not let children raise children. When left to their own devices (PNI), they tend to gravitate to the worst ideas, and the younger kids will learn from their elders' abyssmal examples.

paganel 2y ago

That’s “extreme” only to their children, who most probably (the children, that is) hold very extreme beliefs themselves, such as smaller pensions and reduced State-supported assistance for the elderly. It is true, those (relatively younger) children think that they still hold the Gramcsian hegemony-like hold on what’s considered to be the “truth”, and hence the non-“extreme”, but that has stopped happening with the advent of social networks and the democratization of information (think of how happy everyone was about that democratization via social media when the Arab Spring started).

saagarjha 2y ago
??? Where did all this come from?
- paganel 2y ago
  Don't you have friends in their 30s, even 40s, asking for the pensions to go down? And for the old people to die off soon enough because they're keeping all of us (younger people) down, with their (the old people's) voting habits being a very good example of that? Because I certainly do have those type of friends and acquaintances. Or maybe it's just an Eastern-European thing and further West there's no inter-generational war.
  - saagarjha 2y ago
    We don't really have pensions in the US (anymore). There is a meme of baby boomers cashing out of Social Security and leaving it unreplenished for future generations. I don't think "let's kill off the older people" is a common viewpoint but "the old people vote against our interests and I am waiting for them to die" is.
    - paganel 2y ago
      Artificially keeping the stock exchange up (and inflated), no matter the consequences, is a form of State-sponsored pension, even though technically it is all private money. Somebody should write a study to show the correlation between the pension funds getting bigger and bigger and the number of companies getting in/out of the the S&P500 or Dow Jones getting lower and lower over time. That second number getting lower and lower means less innovation, means less real wealth going into the future, means less real money for people who are now in their 30s and 40s. I’d say that many of the NIMBY policies also respect that premise, i.e. government-supported decisions that help keep the wealth among the elderly by (artificially) keeping the existing home prices up (and it is known that those houses are some of the most important assets that said elderly people own).