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There is no expectation of privacy on a public street and certainly not for the license plate which you are required to display by law. I’m not a lawyer and ne

There is no expectation of privacy on a public street and certainly not for the license plate which you are required to display by law. I’m not a lawyer and never a surveillance apologist, but I’m pretty sure that courts will find license plate readers legal. If there’s a legal challenge the question will probably come down to the word “search”. Will law enforcement use this data to investigate crimes (yes). Will that use constitute search? Identifying who passed on a public street by way of their license plate is probably not search. But I could be wrong.

ty6853 2y ago
Fine, then throw out the requirement to display my plate which is an unlawful self-imposed search of my registration papers without probable cause nor reasonable suspicion. You can't just force people to affix their ID to their method of transportation to get around the fact you can't stop and ask them for it without RAS, it's a cheap sleight of hand around the 4th amendment.
- m-p-3 2y ago
  The thing is, driving is a privilege and not a right since it can be revoked.
  - ty6853 2y ago
    4th amendment still applies to those engaging in the 'privilege' of driving to work so they can pay the property taxes they must pay so they aren't locked in jail for being homeless. Idea 4A doesn't apply to 'privileges' including the most common method of personal transport is totally nonsensical nor is any exception of the sort implied nor explicitly outlined by the amendment.
    - SR2Z 2y ago
      Your right to privacy is subordinate to the public's interest in identifying the drivers of cars. It's not a 4A violation to require you to display ID when you're driving a machine that statistically is one of the leading killers of both adults and children. It's just good policy.
      - ty6853 2y ago
        Identifying ( by essentially always-on search) everyone driving without RAS or PC sounds like a privilege and not a right, that can be revoked, unlike the 4A. As ALPR become ubiquitous it's becoming clear that privilege is subservient to our rights.

ty6853 2y ago

Fine, then throw out the requirement to display my plate which is an unlawful self-imposed search of my registration papers without probable cause nor reasonable suspicion. You can't just force people to affix their ID to their method of transportation to get around the fact you can't stop and ask them for it without RAS, it's a cheap sleight of hand around the 4th amendment.

m-p-3 2y ago
The thing is, driving is a privilege and not a right since it can be revoked.
- ty6853 2y ago
  4th amendment still applies to those engaging in the 'privilege' of driving to work so they can pay the property taxes they must pay so they aren't locked in jail for being homeless. Idea 4A doesn't apply to 'privileges' including the most common method of personal transport is totally nonsensical nor is any exception of the sort implied nor explicitly outlined by the amendment.
  - SR2Z 2y ago
    Your right to privacy is subordinate to the public's interest in identifying the drivers of cars. It's not a 4A violation to require you to display ID when you're driving a machine that statistically is one of the leading killers of both adults and children. It's just good policy.
    - ty6853 2y ago
      Identifying ( by essentially always-on search) everyone driving without RAS or PC sounds like a privilege and not a right, that can be revoked, unlike the 4A. As ALPR become ubiquitous it's becoming clear that privilege is subservient to our rights.