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It is wholly appropriate for a government act to protect it's citizens' rights including their property rights. Fraud and theft violate those rights. Your arg
by sbuttgereit 2y ago
It is wholly appropriate for a government act to protect it's citizens' rights including their property rights. Fraud and theft violate those rights.
Your arguments are essentially shifting blame from the fraudster to the victim... not unlike the kind of arguments that suggest certain rapes or murders are also the victim's fault for either dressing suggestively or travelling through the wrong part of town at the wrong time. While those things may actually be unwise, that the victim didn't act with wisdom or prescience doesn't relieve the perpetrator of culpability nor make the victim deserving of such violation. Wisdom merely dictates that it might be better for you to avoid the risk of becoming a victim if you can.
I personally don't engage in these kinds of financial instruments because I feel the risks are pretty high.... but I absolutely applaud the government pursuing a fraudster where ever they can... without regard to the wisdom, or foolishness, of the victim.
- ty6853 2y agoYes and the government is defrauding me claiming this is effective governance and stealing from me to lock these guys up. They are violating my property rights in extraditing kwon. You are victim blaming me for being unhappy with this.
- Rodeoclash 2y agoThis is an astounding level of "logical" jumps. As for why the government is doing this, it's very beneficial for the US to demonstrate its long arm of the law as a lesson to other criminals.
- ty6853 2y agoIs it? There is a Korean poster bragging here about how happy they are to have offloaded kwon to the US for a free ride on us since they are too lazy to mete out full punishment of people operating on their turf. We are a laughing stock. Dump your criminals on the US taxpayers to play world police.
- brigadeer4suppa 2y ago[dead]
- yongjik 2y agoI assume you're talking about my post. If you understood it as "Koreans are laughing at the US," then you need to work on your English comprehension skill.
- ty6853 2y agoI understood it as Korean common taxpayer being the real benefactor over the US common taxpayers, since Koreans can shirk the cost of punishing their own and offload it on me while still maintaining the moral high ground since they have a loftier sounding reason for not wanting to foot the bill.
- jjulius 2y ago>Yes and the government is defrauding me... >You are victim blaming me... I think someone needs to go for a walk.
- ty6853 2y agoSomeone out there defrauded someone else, only by the greatest stretch did this even occur in even the same country I inhabit. Therefore I must agree to paying to lock up and internationally fly the perpetrator for something that happened in the other hemisphere for a transaction i am in no way connected to,or else I am a victim blamer who needs to take a walk. I'm not crazy, this world is.
- jjulius 2y agoYou could take this general concept and apply it to literally any criminal prosecution you disagree with or may feel "disconnected from", domestically or internationally. There are people who feel that a wrong should be righted, and there are those who may disagree. That's okay. Nobody is crazy for disagreeing. But that's what happens in this sorta system - sometimes, people think money is wasted if it's something that they disagree with. There will never be a way to make everyone agree with every prosecution, or use of tax dollars. C'est la vie.
- ty6853 2y agoI would prefer something more akin to voluntarily funded prosecutions and jailing when they are extraterritorial. That way everyone who pays for something that happened outside where we even have representation at least agrees to it, since we have no real vote on the extraterritorial civil environment.
- jjulius 2y agoOkay.
- miki123211 2y agoWould you also e.g. applaud Iran trying to extradite you if you watched a pornographic recording of an Iranian woman, even if recorded with her consent? Would you applaud China for trying to extradite you for "spreading unrest and destabilizing the political situation in the country", AKA posting a meme offensive to their regime?
- jjulius 2y agoThese are terrible comparisons.
- s5300 2y ago[flagged]
- mu53 2y agoThese are bizarrely different situations. The USG has jurisdiction given the definition of fraud, the role of the SEC, and how the company Terraform Labs was formed and operated. If you don't think so, can you explain why not?