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COVID was such a waste of a catastrophe. We all briefly figured out that maybe people who work at a computer all day don't actually need to travel every day to

COVID was such a waste of a catastrophe. We all briefly figured out that maybe people who work at a computer all day don't actually need to travel every day to a special computer in a special building. And that we don't need mass tourism and mass migration. But everyone was determined to learn absolutely nothing from it, and just go back to normal but even worse.

cloudking 2y ago
WFH was the best thing to come out of COVID.
- PessimalDecimal 2y ago
  "was" might be unfortunately too accurate.
celdon25 2y ago
> back to normal but even worse. Yep, I had no problem finding remote jobs before Covid. Now I get no interviews, every application rejected due to competing with literally thousands of remote "applicants" per job.
toomuchtodo 2y ago
We learned that corporate leadership folks are willing to make workers suffer out of ideology and ignore data. Valuable signal.
- DrillShopper 2y ago
  Suffer and die
_heimdall 2y ago
If you're looking for Covid response lessons to learn, WFH is pretty low on the list in my opinion. We saw how fragile our entire system is from infrastructure to food. We saw how quickly a bit of fear turned an entire political party (at least in the US) from vilifying big pharma to putting it on a pedestal, handing over mountains of money, and creating legal cover for any and all liability. We saw how strong of a grip the news media has over society, turning public opinion on a dime as new recommendations/talking points came down. We saw how intertwined social media and the government really is. WFH feels like a quaint novelty to me in the context of what all went wrong and what lessons were missed during the pandemic response.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  The party you are thinking about isn’t the party that was against the science of vaccines
  - galangalalgol 2y ago
    Left vs right and their position on masks and the vaccine varied by country, and in the us it flipped early on, I want to say something like 19weeks from the first case in the US Vice and Fox swapped talking points. That was truly strange. I'm not smart enough to understand how the oligarchy in the US works, or how various news sources align.
    - scarface_74 2y ago
      The left was never against vaccines. If you look at the states and their policies, the anti-vax policies are all Republican https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/political-party-affiliation-linked-excess-covid-deaths https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/political-party-affiliat...
      - _heimdall 2y ago
        That isn't accurate, the US left (or at least the Democratic party) was very much against warp speed and vaccines while Trump was still in office. Many Democratic politicians, including Biden and Harris if I'm not mistaken, apoje out against Trump's vaccine program and the risk of forcing through testing under such extreme circumstances. That changes as soon as Biden, rather than Trump, owned the vaccine programs.
        scarface_74 2y ago
        The vaccines weren’t approved until 12/11/2020 after Trump had lost and wasn’t widely available until the first few months of Biden’s administration. Again who has been the anti vax party since 2020? Trump is literally trying to appoint an anti-vaxxer to his cabinet
andrewmcwatters 2y ago
No one forgot. The lasting effects are here and real.
cwbriscoe 2y ago
> special computer I would work on the same laptop at an office that I do at home. I doubt they would even provide me an ultrawide 2nd monitor that I also use at home.
wahnfrieden 2y ago
Wage suppression tactics aren't the same as productivity-enhancing tactics

cloudking 2y ago

WFH was the best thing to come out of COVID.

PessimalDecimal 2y ago
"was" might be unfortunately too accurate.

celdon25 2y ago

> back to normal but even worse. Yep, I had no problem finding remote jobs before Covid. Now I get no interviews, every application rejected due to competing with literally thousands of remote "applicants" per job.

toomuchtodo 2y ago

We learned that corporate leadership folks are willing to make workers suffer out of ideology and ignore data. Valuable signal.

DrillShopper 2y ago
Suffer and die

_heimdall 2y ago

If you're looking for Covid response lessons to learn, WFH is pretty low on the list in my opinion. We saw how fragile our entire system is from infrastructure to food. We saw how quickly a bit of fear turned an entire political party (at least in the US) from vilifying big pharma to putting it on a pedestal, handing over mountains of money, and creating legal cover for any and all liability. We saw how strong of a grip the news media has over society, turning public opinion on a dime as new recommendations/talking points came down. We saw how intertwined social media and the government really is. WFH feels like a quaint novelty to me in the context of what all went wrong and what lessons were missed during the pandemic response.

scarface_74 2y ago
The party you are thinking about isn’t the party that was against the science of vaccines
- galangalalgol 2y ago
  Left vs right and their position on masks and the vaccine varied by country, and in the us it flipped early on, I want to say something like 19weeks from the first case in the US Vice and Fox swapped talking points. That was truly strange. I'm not smart enough to understand how the oligarchy in the US works, or how various news sources align.
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    The left was never against vaccines. If you look at the states and their policies, the anti-vax policies are all Republican https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/political-party-affiliation-linked-excess-covid-deaths https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/political-party-affiliat...
    - _heimdall 2y ago
      That isn't accurate, the US left (or at least the Democratic party) was very much against warp speed and vaccines while Trump was still in office. Many Democratic politicians, including Biden and Harris if I'm not mistaken, apoje out against Trump's vaccine program and the risk of forcing through testing under such extreme circumstances. That changes as soon as Biden, rather than Trump, owned the vaccine programs.
      - scarface_74 2y ago
        The vaccines weren’t approved until 12/11/2020 after Trump had lost and wasn’t widely available until the first few months of Biden’s administration. Again who has been the anti vax party since 2020? Trump is literally trying to appoint an anti-vaxxer to his cabinet

andrewmcwatters 2y ago

No one forgot. The lasting effects are here and real.

cwbriscoe 2y ago

> special computer I would work on the same laptop at an office that I do at home. I doubt they would even provide me an ultrawide 2nd monitor that I also use at home.

wahnfrieden 2y ago

Wage suppression tactics aren't the same as productivity-enhancing tactics