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Probably if they were actually going to do much of that. My prediction is a big show, lots of tough talk for the xenophobes in the base, some criminals and egr

Probably if they were actually going to do much of that. My prediction is a big show, lots of tough talk for the xenophobes in the base, some criminals and egregious public assistance cases get gone, a few raids on Tyson Foods (or whoever doesn't contribute or support the administration) and not much more. Amnesty pretty quick by this admin or the next. They want the working people here too. More tax base, more "motivated" workers.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Probably if they were actually going to do much of that I guess I’m struggling to imagine the utility of those cameras for tracing abortion-provider visitors and illegal immigrants versus all the other federal surveillance infrastructure.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  My citations are for data brokers, but ALPR databases that are constantly updating from field sensors, and with porous data security and governance, they should not be dismissed. This is a commercial surveillance dragnet system, full stop. They aren't weapons until they suddenly are (shades of Salt Typhoon). There is precedence for the misuse of license plate data by law enforcement and adjacent private sector orgs. https://epic.org/data-broker-helped-anti-abortion-group-target-planned-parenthood-visitors-wyden-letter-reveals/ https://epic.org/data-broker-helped-anti-abortion-group-targ... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/03/location-data-tracks-abortion-clinic-visits-heres-what-know https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/03/location-data-tracks-a... https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/567b4c71-b702-47d7-a59c-1e42f39b065a/immigration-and-data-purchases.pdf https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/567b4c71-b702-47d7-a59c-... https://americandragnet.org/ https://americandragnet.org/ https://deflock.me/ https://deflock.me/
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    Thanks, this is what I was looking for.
    - toomuchtodo 2y ago
      Always happy to help.
- mythrwy 2y ago
  That too. I just don't track this kind of reasoning and also think people fundamentally misunderstand what is going to happen under a Trump administration. It won't be about forced social conservatism so much as it will be about money.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> Probably if they were actually going to do much of that I guess I’m struggling to imagine the utility of those cameras for tracing abortion-provider visitors and illegal immigrants versus all the other federal surveillance infrastructure.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
My citations are for data brokers, but ALPR databases that are constantly updating from field sensors, and with porous data security and governance, they should not be dismissed. This is a commercial surveillance dragnet system, full stop. They aren't weapons until they suddenly are (shades of Salt Typhoon). There is precedence for the misuse of license plate data by law enforcement and adjacent private sector orgs. https://epic.org/data-broker-helped-anti-abortion-group-target-planned-parenthood-visitors-wyden-letter-reveals/ https://epic.org/data-broker-helped-anti-abortion-group-targ... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/03/location-data-tracks-abortion-clinic-visits-heres-what-know https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/03/location-data-tracks-a... https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/567b4c71-b702-47d7-a59c-1e42f39b065a/immigration-and-data-purchases.pdf https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/567b4c71-b702-47d7-a59c-... https://americandragnet.org/ https://americandragnet.org/ https://deflock.me/ https://deflock.me/
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  Thanks, this is what I was looking for.
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    Always happy to help.
mythrwy 2y ago
That too. I just don't track this kind of reasoning and also think people fundamentally misunderstand what is going to happen under a Trump administration. It won't be about forced social conservatism so much as it will be about money.