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Unfortunately the spin cycle has anyone, including a lot of HN, believing that all militia members are the most violent and evil people living in the world. Ir

Unfortunately the spin cycle has anyone, including a lot of HN, believing that all militia members are the most violent and evil people living in the world. Ironic given I reserve that title for ISIS who seems to have just recently radicalized another person to run over a bunch of people in New Orleans. I have no particular love for these militias, but I’m not ignorant enough to believe the stuff media goes about parroting.

HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
ISIS is a militia, you're not making any sense.
- aliasxneo 2y ago
  Since when was ISIS an American militia? It seems you didn't read the post. My comment makes perfect sense in the context of the article.
  - michaelcampbell 2y ago
    > Since when was ISIS an American militia? Luckily that was never asserted.
    - aliasxneo 2y ago
      The reference to "militias" in my comment referenced American militias, just like the topic of the posted article. I don't understand how to make sense of the comment claiming that ISIS is a militia as if that somehow makes my comment illogical. I wasn't talking about all militias, just like the article wasn't.
mmooss 2y ago
> all militia members are the most violent and evil people living in the world. That's a strawperson. It doesn't have to be all. Groups that call themselves 'militias', arm and train themselves, plan violence, and sometimes perpetuate it. It's reasonable for the public to be concerned about them.
- aliasxneo 2y ago
  We'll never agree on this because I'm sure you disagree with the premise that American media spins American militias to be far worse than they actually are. If that's true, your accusation makes sense.
  - mmooss 2y ago
    What an interesting way to talk to someone, especially someone you don't know: Tell them what they think and denounce it. You don't even need the other person; you can have these conversations by yourself. Or if you need to feel like you're socializing with someone, just tell me what to post and I'll post it for you. Here: 'I disagree with the premise that American media spins American militias to be far worse than they actually are.' Now you can respond!
    - aliasxneo 2y ago
      Where did I denounce it? I attempted to make sense of your accusation in an otherwise asynchronous communication platform. If my assumption was wrong, go ahead and correct it.
      - mmooss 2y ago
        You don't get to make baseless accusations against people and require them to entertain you with a response. They are not guilty of everything you can make up until they prove themselves innocent of each one. If you are going to accuse someone, you need to prove it - it's up to you. Otherwise, don't say it. An far better approach is, ask; be curious. People have wildly different ideas than you. Here you cut all that off and reduce the world to the narrow range of what you can think of, and the even narrower range your expectations. The great advantage of talking to others is they have different ideas totally outside and independent of yours. Baseless accusations are not ok, even if they are commonplace on social media. They are morally wrong. Bearing false witness is a sin. I don't want to be accused, to have this put on me; nobody does.

HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago

ISIS is a militia, you're not making any sense.

aliasxneo 2y ago
Since when was ISIS an American militia? It seems you didn't read the post. My comment makes perfect sense in the context of the article.
- michaelcampbell 2y ago
  > Since when was ISIS an American militia? Luckily that was never asserted.
  - aliasxneo 2y ago
    The reference to "militias" in my comment referenced American militias, just like the topic of the posted article. I don't understand how to make sense of the comment claiming that ISIS is a militia as if that somehow makes my comment illogical. I wasn't talking about all militias, just like the article wasn't.

mmooss 2y ago

> all militia members are the most violent and evil people living in the world. That's a strawperson. It doesn't have to be all. Groups that call themselves 'militias', arm and train themselves, plan violence, and sometimes perpetuate it. It's reasonable for the public to be concerned about them.

aliasxneo 2y ago
We'll never agree on this because I'm sure you disagree with the premise that American media spins American militias to be far worse than they actually are. If that's true, your accusation makes sense.
- mmooss 2y ago
  What an interesting way to talk to someone, especially someone you don't know: Tell them what they think and denounce it. You don't even need the other person; you can have these conversations by yourself. Or if you need to feel like you're socializing with someone, just tell me what to post and I'll post it for you. Here: 'I disagree with the premise that American media spins American militias to be far worse than they actually are.' Now you can respond!
  - aliasxneo 2y ago
    Where did I denounce it? I attempted to make sense of your accusation in an otherwise asynchronous communication platform. If my assumption was wrong, go ahead and correct it.
    - mmooss 2y ago
      You don't get to make baseless accusations against people and require them to entertain you with a response. They are not guilty of everything you can make up until they prove themselves innocent of each one. If you are going to accuse someone, you need to prove it - it's up to you. Otherwise, don't say it. An far better approach is, ask; be curious. People have wildly different ideas than you. Here you cut all that off and reduce the world to the narrow range of what you can think of, and the even narrower range your expectations. The great advantage of talking to others is they have different ideas totally outside and independent of yours. Baseless accusations are not ok, even if they are commonplace on social media. They are morally wrong. Bearing false witness is a sin. I don't want to be accused, to have this put on me; nobody does.