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I don't like that some people, esp at larger companies, think that groups with disadvantages in today's world are cutesy adorable things to play make-believe wi
by lionkor 2y ago
I don't like that some people, esp at larger companies, think that groups with disadvantages in today's world are cutesy adorable things to play make-believe with.
- deleted 2y ago[deleted]
- MrMcCall 2y ago[flagged]
- whimsicalism 2y agothat’s basically our entire culture. ever notice how black people are disproportionately represented in comic media and particularly “reaction gifs”? just modern day ministrelism
- ImPostingOnHN 2y ago> ever notice how black people are disproportionately represented in comic media and particularly “reaction gifs”? No, I have never noticed that. In fact, I have noticed the opposite.
- whimsicalism 2y agothe comedy thing is maybe debatable but the reaction gifs thing is objectively true and kinda weird from my perspective
- cootsnuck 2y agoYea, I don't know how anyone could even pretend to not notice the reaction gifs. It's been like that since reaction gifs have been a thing.
- ImPostingOnHN 2y agoAre you sure it's objectively true, and not just a personal observation based on subjective experience? Given that we have had opposite experiences, it seems like the latter. Maybe the crowds you run with disproportionately use them?
- whimsicalism 2y agoyes i'm sure https://www.google.com/search?q=reaction+gif&udm=2 https://www.google.com/search?q=reaction+gif&udm=2
- ImPostingOnHN 2y agoWhat makes you so sure? Obviously the results of a google search isn't valid data. Who knows what's in their algorithm, what gets missed, what gets used more, etc.
- ternnoburn 2y agoPackaging and commodifying Black and queer cultures for sale to people, while not actually engaging or giving back to those cultures is a pretty time worn tradition, tbh. Of course, it ain't right now and it weren't right then, but I'm not in the least surprised it happened.
- morkalork 2y agoActual real cultural appropriation to be outraged at for once
- noisy_boy 2y ago[flagged]
- ryandrake 2y agoNever understood this critique. What is the "correct" percentage of Apple ads that should have "non-majority/mixed race people"? You seem to know, so what's the number? Release an ad with white people in it, and one group complains "Racist! Ignoring minorities!" Release an ad with black people in it, and another group complains "Pandering!" There's no winning this battle.
- asdff 2y agoHow about an apple ad with some latino people? That is increasingly the majority demographic in many metro regions these days but its not really reflected in mainstream media beyond the scant amount of token representation there’s been for decades.
- noisy_boy 2y agoOf course ads should have all kinds of people because all kinds of people are around us. How about adding more Indians or Latinos? It is mostly white or african americans. And not just african americans, african americans with dreadlocks and afros? How many of african americans in your circle have dreadlocks and afros? Isn't it just overcorrection by pandering using stereotypes?
- bearjaws 2y agoI do think its a bit of an over correction on their part, Apple notoriously neglected to make their camera good at taking pictures of darker skin people. I believe this was corrected in ~2022. Google even ran an ad campaign because Pixel was able to do a much better job with skin tones for darker skin than Apple was.
- tonymet 2y agoI also find this tacky, but it does fit into AI fairness. Their goal is to offset lack of in-vivo representation of blacks by over-representing them in virtual venues. It's less creepy in search result ranking , text & image LLMs. but now that they are personifying the characters, the uncanny valley really stands out. I think your sentiment applies well to the general AI fairness strategy