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Apple Siri Eavesdropping Payout–Here's Who's Eligible and How to Claim

5 points by elorant 2y ago

cebert 2y ago
> The cash won’t all go to Apple Siri users. Some of the money will go to the legal teams, who could take 30% of the fee plus expenses — a total of just under $30 million. 30% seems like a steep cut of the 95 million to me. I dislike how these class actions frequently end up mostly going to lawyers.
- dahart 2y ago
  For some reason, I was pleasantly surprised it wasn’t 50%, but you’re right this is mainly a fine for Apple and a nice payday for the legal team. Someone has to do the work and I’m sure it’s a lot of work, but I’m also sure they’re highly motivated and walking away with a profit too. The problem is even class action lawsuits that payout a few thousand dollars per person doesn’t help the recipients much. In this case 30% more money to the people in the class won’t make any meaningful difference to them at all. If the lawyers were getting 0% instead of 30%, the payout would be almost $30, and $30/person isn’t helping the average iPhone user, nor making up for individual privacy violations. The vast majority of people getting the $20 will not have experienced accidental recording. The sum-total damages is the only thing that might motivate Apple to tighten security, but they probably already did it, and TBH I feel like Apple’s got a better record on privacy than almost all other big tech, so the $95M is perhaps pure punishment for past deeds.
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ChrisArchitect 2y ago
Related: Siri "unintentionally" recorded private convos; Apple agrees to pay $95M https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42578929 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42578929
daft_pink 2y ago
The only one of these that I ever felt good about taking was the Apple Keyboard settlement. They sold me that lemon laptop after they already knew it was defective, and it was always being repaired.

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Apple Siri Eavesdropping Payout–Here's Who's Eligible and How to Claim

5 points by elorant 2y ago

cebert 2y ago
> The cash won’t all go to Apple Siri users. Some of the money will go to the legal teams, who could take 30% of the fee plus expenses — a total of just under $30 million. 30% seems like a steep cut of the 95 million to me. I dislike how these class actions frequently end up mostly going to lawyers.
- dahart 2y ago
  For some reason, I was pleasantly surprised it wasn’t 50%, but you’re right this is mainly a fine for Apple and a nice payday for the legal team. Someone has to do the work and I’m sure it’s a lot of work, but I’m also sure they’re highly motivated and walking away with a profit too. The problem is even class action lawsuits that payout a few thousand dollars per person doesn’t help the recipients much. In this case 30% more money to the people in the class won’t make any meaningful difference to them at all. If the lawyers were getting 0% instead of 30%, the payout would be almost $30, and $30/person isn’t helping the average iPhone user, nor making up for individual privacy violations. The vast majority of people getting the $20 will not have experienced accidental recording. The sum-total damages is the only thing that might motivate Apple to tighten security, but they probably already did it, and TBH I feel like Apple’s got a better record on privacy than almost all other big tech, so the $95M is perhaps pure punishment for past deeds.
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ChrisArchitect 2y ago
Related: Siri "unintentionally" recorded private convos; Apple agrees to pay $95M https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42578929 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42578929
daft_pink 2y ago
The only one of these that I ever felt good about taking was the Apple Keyboard settlement. They sold me that lemon laptop after they already knew it was defective, and it was always being repaired.