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"How would it do that? " AI. That is entire premise of 'Nexis' from Yuval Harari. Individualized bot driven surveillance . https://www.theregister.com/2024/

"How would it do that? " AI. That is entire premise of 'Nexis' from Yuval Harari. Individualized bot driven surveillance . https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/16/oracle_ai_mass_surveillance_cloud/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/16/oracle_ai_mass_survei... ""Ellison declares Oracle all-in on AI mass surveillance, says it'll keep everyone in line Cops to citizens will be 'on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting'""

simonw 2y ago
How were they doing this in 2017?
- FrustratedMonky 2y ago
  A lot of things are happening now that happened before. That doesn't mean things don't improve. Increased efficiency is the issue now. In 2017, maybe some simple algorithms, or a person, was intervening to drive ads, now AI is a big step change in better targeting. That was one of the points in the book. in 2017 or before, a surveillance state was limited by the number of people it takes to do the actual surveillance . Now AI increases the efficiency.
lofaszvanitt 2y ago
Harari is a shill.
- FrustratedMonky 2y ago
  you make a very convincing argument. /s
  - lofaszvanitt 2y ago
    Isn't it obvious? When someone talks a lot and most of those talks have zero relevant meaning or substance, then it's someone who is a shill.
    - FrustratedMonky 2y ago
      He talks a lot when on a book tour, you know, promoting a book. There is a couple months where he is on every podcast. Then he is gone again. You know who else does this, every other author on the planet. When a book is coming out, then suddenly the authors are on every podcast or show, talk, debate, anything they can manage to get on. Its a blitz. You know what else happens on a book tour, they tend to give a highlight of the book. They don't sit there reading off references and citations. They give a streamlined high level idea of what the book is about, but not all of it, because they want people to go buy it.
      - lofaszvanitt 2y ago
        Then there is nothing to talk about if you think he is aok. Move on.

simonw 2y ago

How were they doing this in 2017?

FrustratedMonky 2y ago
A lot of things are happening now that happened before. That doesn't mean things don't improve. Increased efficiency is the issue now. In 2017, maybe some simple algorithms, or a person, was intervening to drive ads, now AI is a big step change in better targeting. That was one of the points in the book. in 2017 or before, a surveillance state was limited by the number of people it takes to do the actual surveillance . Now AI increases the efficiency.

lofaszvanitt 2y ago

Harari is a shill.

FrustratedMonky 2y ago
you make a very convincing argument. /s
- lofaszvanitt 2y ago
  Isn't it obvious? When someone talks a lot and most of those talks have zero relevant meaning or substance, then it's someone who is a shill.
  - FrustratedMonky 2y ago
    He talks a lot when on a book tour, you know, promoting a book. There is a couple months where he is on every podcast. Then he is gone again. You know who else does this, every other author on the planet. When a book is coming out, then suddenly the authors are on every podcast or show, talk, debate, anything they can manage to get on. Its a blitz. You know what else happens on a book tour, they tend to give a highlight of the book. They don't sit there reading off references and citations. They give a streamlined high level idea of what the book is about, but not all of it, because they want people to go buy it.
    - lofaszvanitt 2y ago
      Then there is nothing to talk about if you think he is aok. Move on.