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Wonder what the chances are that crypto makes it into Minecraft 2. I can't imagine what you'd want in a "Minecraft 2" that isn't already in Minecraft or Roblox

by cco 2y ago

Wonder what the chances are that crypto makes it into Minecraft 2. I can't imagine what you'd want in a "Minecraft 2" that isn't already in Minecraft or Roblox.

asdff 2y ago
a new engine would be welcome
- jsheard 2y ago
  Minecraft already got a new engine, it was rebuilt from scratch in C++ for the "Bedrock" edition which powers all of the console and mobile versions, and is on PC alongside the original Java version. Unless you mean another new engine after that one, but in any case Notch's code was always a mess so he's probably not the man for that job. I recall Java Minecraft modders having to optimize it themselves because the stock game was generating hundreds of megabytes of garbage collected heap objects every second, amongst other things.
  - asdff 2y ago
    I thought bedrock edition had certain constraints like finite world gen
    - jsheard 2y ago
      The earlier console versions had finite worldgen due to memory constraints, but the newer versions of Bedrock do have infinite worlds. The main limitation of Bedrock is that it's just not as moddable since it's native code rather than easily decompiled bytecode.
      - pohuing 2y ago
        It's Redstone engine also doesn't work as well for crazy doors and other crazy machinery: https://youtu.be/OmaXZldgq8U https://youtu.be/OmaXZldgq8U
  - naruhodo 2y ago
    Those in the know refer to the C++ version as "Bugrock".
  - pjmlp 2y ago
    Most of the Java performance issues are caused by modders themselves, with minecraft mods being their ever first attempt at programming. Also the main reason the Java version is still around, and used as prototype to features that only afterwards land on Bedrock, is how limited Bedrock modding capabilities versus the Java version are. Only a couple of custom points via JSON files, or JavaScript with limited API surface, instead of the whole engine.
  - xinayder 2y ago
    Also Bedrock is full of mtxns while Java Edition is just the base game.
    - Sophira 2y ago
      I haven't heard the word "mtxns" before. Is that short for "microtransactions"?
RobCodeSlayer 2y ago
Native LOD akin to the Distant Horizons mod https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/distant-horizons https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/distant-horizon...

by cco 2y ago

Wonder what the chances are that crypto makes it into Minecraft 2. I can't imagine what you'd want in a "Minecraft 2" that isn't already in Minecraft or Roblox.

asdff 2y ago

a new engine would be welcome

jsheard 2y ago
Minecraft already got a new engine, it was rebuilt from scratch in C++ for the "Bedrock" edition which powers all of the console and mobile versions, and is on PC alongside the original Java version. Unless you mean another new engine after that one, but in any case Notch's code was always a mess so he's probably not the man for that job. I recall Java Minecraft modders having to optimize it themselves because the stock game was generating hundreds of megabytes of garbage collected heap objects every second, amongst other things.
- asdff 2y ago
  I thought bedrock edition had certain constraints like finite world gen
  - jsheard 2y ago
    The earlier console versions had finite worldgen due to memory constraints, but the newer versions of Bedrock do have infinite worlds. The main limitation of Bedrock is that it's just not as moddable since it's native code rather than easily decompiled bytecode.
    - pohuing 2y ago
      It's Redstone engine also doesn't work as well for crazy doors and other crazy machinery: https://youtu.be/OmaXZldgq8U https://youtu.be/OmaXZldgq8U
- naruhodo 2y ago
  Those in the know refer to the C++ version as "Bugrock".
- pjmlp 2y ago
  Most of the Java performance issues are caused by modders themselves, with minecraft mods being their ever first attempt at programming. Also the main reason the Java version is still around, and used as prototype to features that only afterwards land on Bedrock, is how limited Bedrock modding capabilities versus the Java version are. Only a couple of custom points via JSON files, or JavaScript with limited API surface, instead of the whole engine.
- xinayder 2y ago
  Also Bedrock is full of mtxns while Java Edition is just the base game.
  - Sophira 2y ago
    I haven't heard the word "mtxns" before. Is that short for "microtransactions"?

RobCodeSlayer 2y ago

Native LOD akin to the Distant Horizons mod https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/distant-horizons https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/distant-horizon...