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I'm definitely the target audience for alcohol-free spaces that open late - hopefully this makes its way to the PNW!
by bsnnkv 2y ago
I'm definitely the target audience for alcohol-free spaces that open late - hopefully this makes its way to the PNW!
- carabiner 2y agoSeattle is an 8 pm city. I'd love for anything to be open late here.
- IG_Semmelweiss 2y agoCovid wiped out a lot of 24 hour spots in all the big metro markets. Revenue halted overnight, and often turned negative with breakins and general insecurity
- SoftTalker 2y agoEmployees also realized that being home at night is nice and they refuse to go back to working 24x7.
- PaulHoule 2y agoIthaca used to have 24 hour businesses but since the pandemic and the 10x-ing of the homeless colony they are long gone.
- wrl 2y agoHow does homelessness relate at all?
- nemomarx 2y agoSimilar to public bathrooms - if a business is open 24 hours and you can stick around in there in the heated / cooled interior that's good for the homeless person, but maybe bad for loitering or the business. I can't imagine a business closing over it, but having a closing time is a good way to get people to leave maybe?
- PaulHoule 2y agoPeople with schizophrenia spazzing out, police calls, etc. There has been a huge increase in disturbed behavior in public.
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- Aloha 2y agoHow I miss when 13 Coins was 24/7 - the pandemic killed that. It was a lifesaver for me when I worked grave, I could go for a sumptuous dinner at 3 or 4 am.
- bobthepanda 2y agoThere used to be late night coffee shops, and more late night restaurants. That mostly went away years ago, basically completely died in COVID, and the labor shortages in the service industry never eased up enough to maintain staffing at places that had late night hours. And I do mean not enough people; the housing shortage is so acute that service workers cannot find places to live.
- CoastalCoder 2y agoRhode Island didn't have a lot of late night coffee shops even before the pandemic. But after it they're neigh impossible to find. At least outside of Providence.
- davidw 2y ago> the housing shortage is so acute that service workers cannot find places to live. You can trace all kinds of seemingly unrelated problems back to the "housing theory of everything".
- carabiner 2y agoYeah, I hate how COVID changed things so much for the worse. If I was a crazy billionaire, I'd open a good pizza place in SLU or somewhere central with pies that cost $20 for a large, open til 3 am. Maybe aim to lose no more than $5,000 per month. It would not be profitable with the crazy high minimum wage, so I would just accept the loss for providing this benefit to the city.
- slillibri 2y agoA Pizza Mart is open until 2am, at least in Belltown but you can only get a medium for around $20.
- sneak 2y agoOr just charge what it costs to not lose money, the demand is there. In cities like this people will travel a significant distance for hot food. And there’s always the delivery apps, too.
- throwup238 2y agoDick’s is open till 2 am :)
- carabiner 2y agoAlso a lot of kebab places which aren't bad. But like, something like a late night kbbq place that's all smoky inside would be amazing.
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- wenc 2y agoI feel you. Most Seattle people are homebodies by their own admission. Anything open after 9 pm is usually a bar. Also, things have gotten worse after the pandemic. Low revenue after 9 pm (unless alcohol is involved), high labor costs, and safety issues means the juice is not worth the squeeze for most retail businesses here. When I used to live in Chicago, the economics worked out differently, so there were many businesses that opened late.
- marssaxman 2y agoIs that cause or effect? If there is nothing to do, you stop going out to do it, and then you forget how to be social. Seems like a vicious cycle.
- wenc 2y agoIt's both. Seattle is one of the most introverted cities in the US (socially, it's disproportionately shaped by the tech population). Seattle Freeze is a real thing. COVID also did a number on people worldwide. Also, gloomy weather 7-8 months of the year makes you not want to socialize.
- aprilthird2021 2y agoI don't know if tech has anything to do with it. The Yemeni coffee shops in the article have been thriving for years in San Francisco
- carabiner 2y agoSupposedly it's Seattle's scandinavian origins. Obviously Seattle is a big coffee town but the cafe vibes are definitely different from SF's, or LA's.
- bsnnkv 2y agoFor anyone looking for late night activities here: Swing dancing is a great late night activity in Seattle - multiple live jazz bands a month (at least once a week), and very low alcohol consumption (people mainly go to dance/practice). It'll be sad to see the Century Ballroom closing its doors this spring.
- woodson 2y agoPortland is the same. There used to be Coffee Time on NW 21st, but that now closes at 6pm, too.
- selimthegrim 2y agoThere was one on SE Powell close to the bridge
- doublepg23 2y agoPittsburgh is the same way. I miss the 24/7 eat and park.
- darth_avocado 2y agoMox, a balacear to play board games that also serves coffee and food is open till midnight, at least on the weekends. They close at 10 on weekdays
- ValentineC 2y agoNot strictly alcohol-free, but for spaces that open late and don't focus on alcohol sales: more people should support their local hackerspace.