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It’s ironic that most people have jobs in the first place thanks to ads but hate on ads every day. Without ads the world would basically stop, they drive the

It’s ironic that most people have jobs in the first place thanks to ads but hate on ads every day. Without ads the world would basically stop, they drive the businesses, each and every one. It’s a necessary evil that will always be in most popular products, especially considering most people want to get all value for free.

TZubiri 2y ago
I want the power of the techno gods for free, but I also don't want ads. Is that so hard to get?
- nunez 2y ago
  Nope It's like credit cards. It's amazing benefits wouldn't exist without leagues of people chronically keeping a balance against near-usury levels of interest in some cases, but, fortunately, the set of people that use them correctly is much much smaller. Most people irl don't give a shit about ads. Evidence A: NFL and soccer growing in popularity every year despite 90 sec of ads every 5-10 minutes. Evidence B: Netflix cheap and Spotify free being more than enough for millions of people. Without them, our entire industry wouldn't exist. Being able to dunk on ads and invest time on ad blockers is a privilege, really.
  - tzs 2y ago
    Netflix is interesting. The current plans are: $ 6.99 Standard with ads $15.46 Standard $22.99 Premium The standard plans are 1080p. Premium is 4k UHF + HDR. The differences between the standard plan and the standard plan with ads, aside from the ads, is that the plan with ads also: (1) only has "most" of the movies and TV shows Netflix, (2) and does not allow purchasing an "extra member" slot. The difference between the standard and premium plans, besides 4K, is: (1) premium lets you download on 6 devices at once (both standard plans are limited to 2), (2) premium includes spatial audio, and (3) premium lets you purchase up to 2 "extra member" slots. I'm really curious how many people who do not get Premium go for Standard rather than Standard with ads. I subscribed a couple days ago, specifically to watch a show that was prematurely cancelled by its original broadcast network (on a cliffhanger!) that Netflix picked up and finished. I figured that since I had watched the first 3 seasons on broadcast TV with ads and don't recall being overly annoyed I could put up with ads for the rest, and I could always switch to a no ads plan if the ads were a problem. So far, after 5 episodes of just under an hour each...the ads were barely noticeable. It has shown me 3 ads, each 30 seconds long. They came at points where the was a major scene change so they didn't disrupt the show. They have, so far, been unobtrusive enough that I wouldn't even pay $1 extra to get rid of them, let alone pay more than double.
  - chgs 2y ago
    My understanding is that American football and other American games are built around tv adverts How does normal football allow for tv adverts? (Other than half time)
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      it doesn’t :)
sandspar 2y ago
Ads haven't always existed. Economies without them can exist and we can move toward one.
- pyth0 2y ago
  Can you explain how a service like YouTube could exist any other way? > Economies without them can exist We should be able to both hate ads and understand that they are a necessary monetization model for certain things. If you feel strongly that they aren't necessary what model should be used instead?
  - sandspar 2y ago
    Maybe YouTube can't exist without ads but the next thing might.
    - gausswho 2y ago
      I almost fail to see what harm could come from nationalizing YouTube at this point.
    - rajup 2y ago
      You can literally pay YouTube to avoid ads, watching the mental gymnastics folks on here do to complain about YouTube Premium is my favorite pastime.
      - asdf147 2y ago
        Why would you pay for something that treats you as a product? I would gladly pay for youtube if there was: no paid sponsorships, no ads, no algorythm manipulations, no collection of behavioral information, no clickbaits, no shitty content promoted and so on and so. Basically a service where the side paying is a consumer, not a product. Paying for service that is already extracting value from you in ways that are not respectable is insane.
        2y ago

TZubiri 2y ago

I want the power of the techno gods for free, but I also don't want ads. Is that so hard to get?

nunez 2y ago
Nope It's like credit cards. It's amazing benefits wouldn't exist without leagues of people chronically keeping a balance against near-usury levels of interest in some cases, but, fortunately, the set of people that use them correctly is much much smaller. Most people irl don't give a shit about ads. Evidence A: NFL and soccer growing in popularity every year despite 90 sec of ads every 5-10 minutes. Evidence B: Netflix cheap and Spotify free being more than enough for millions of people. Without them, our entire industry wouldn't exist. Being able to dunk on ads and invest time on ad blockers is a privilege, really.
- tzs 2y ago
  Netflix is interesting. The current plans are: $ 6.99 Standard with ads $15.46 Standard $22.99 Premium The standard plans are 1080p. Premium is 4k UHF + HDR. The differences between the standard plan and the standard plan with ads, aside from the ads, is that the plan with ads also: (1) only has "most" of the movies and TV shows Netflix, (2) and does not allow purchasing an "extra member" slot. The difference between the standard and premium plans, besides 4K, is: (1) premium lets you download on 6 devices at once (both standard plans are limited to 2), (2) premium includes spatial audio, and (3) premium lets you purchase up to 2 "extra member" slots. I'm really curious how many people who do not get Premium go for Standard rather than Standard with ads. I subscribed a couple days ago, specifically to watch a show that was prematurely cancelled by its original broadcast network (on a cliffhanger!) that Netflix picked up and finished. I figured that since I had watched the first 3 seasons on broadcast TV with ads and don't recall being overly annoyed I could put up with ads for the rest, and I could always switch to a no ads plan if the ads were a problem. So far, after 5 episodes of just under an hour each...the ads were barely noticeable. It has shown me 3 ads, each 30 seconds long. They came at points where the was a major scene change so they didn't disrupt the show. They have, so far, been unobtrusive enough that I wouldn't even pay $1 extra to get rid of them, let alone pay more than double.
- chgs 2y ago
  My understanding is that American football and other American games are built around tv adverts How does normal football allow for tv adverts? (Other than half time)
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    it doesn’t :)

sandspar 2y ago

Ads haven't always existed. Economies without them can exist and we can move toward one.

pyth0 2y ago
Can you explain how a service like YouTube could exist any other way? > Economies without them can exist We should be able to both hate ads and understand that they are a necessary monetization model for certain things. If you feel strongly that they aren't necessary what model should be used instead?
- sandspar 2y ago
  Maybe YouTube can't exist without ads but the next thing might.
  - gausswho 2y ago
    I almost fail to see what harm could come from nationalizing YouTube at this point.
  - rajup 2y ago
    You can literally pay YouTube to avoid ads, watching the mental gymnastics folks on here do to complain about YouTube Premium is my favorite pastime.
    - asdf147 2y ago
      Why would you pay for something that treats you as a product? I would gladly pay for youtube if there was: no paid sponsorships, no ads, no algorythm manipulations, no collection of behavioral information, no clickbaits, no shitty content promoted and so on and so. Basically a service where the side paying is a consumer, not a product. Paying for service that is already extracting value from you in ways that are not respectable is insane.
      - 2y ago