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I used org-mode for a while, but I wasn't an Emacs user, and using it just for that was not a great fit. No one ever says that, but let me say it: If you aren'

I used org-mode for a while, but I wasn't an Emacs user, and using it just for that was not a great fit. No one ever says that, but let me say it: If you aren't an emacs person, it is not going to be a fit. Workflowy is a pretty easy-to-use web version of the outline part, which requires zero setup and the other features of org-mode I never got into. Other things extend beyond this into the PKM space ( Roam, Tana, etc ). Also, Zettelkasten is an interesting thing, but more as a curiosity, some process that worked for a specific researcher in nineteen dickey two, not as some process you should use. For me, the big great outliner was workflow. Roam improved on that, and things improved for Roam.

oliverchan2024 2y ago
No tool can meet everyone’s needs. No matter what the tool is, as long as it has a user base, it proves its effectiveness—it’s just not suitable for you. I was used many tools, include Workflowy and Roam. For me, org-mode & Emacs is the best tool of all, no tool can compare.
- iLemming 2y ago
  Yup, I can concur. Having tried numerous different note-taking, project-management, PIM solutions over the years - Evernote, Workflowy, Notion, Todoist, rememberthemilk, Trello, etc., I have finally ended up with Org-mode and later Org-Roam. Nothing else even comes close to the versatility, control and liberating and empowering experience. Sure, learning Emacs and Org-mode is quite some journey. But it's absolutely worth the time and effort. I even try different new things from time to time - out of curiosity, and because so many times before, I have felt like being stuck in a bubble. And so far, I have not found anything much better than Org-mode.
iLemming 2y ago
> Zettelkasten is an interesting thing, but more as a curiosity Zettelkasten is just an idea, and a great one. I don't know what you think it is, but all these apps - Obsidian, Roamresearch, Logseq, Org-roam - are based on that idea.
- adamgordonbell 2y ago
  I mean, it was a note taking system using a physical card catalog designed by Niklas Luhmann to help with his social science research. The goal of my notes is so far from this that I found the ideas interesting but unrelated to how I use Roam, etc.

oliverchan2024 2y ago

No tool can meet everyone’s needs. No matter what the tool is, as long as it has a user base, it proves its effectiveness—it’s just not suitable for you. I was used many tools, include Workflowy and Roam. For me, org-mode & Emacs is the best tool of all, no tool can compare.

iLemming 2y ago
Yup, I can concur. Having tried numerous different note-taking, project-management, PIM solutions over the years - Evernote, Workflowy, Notion, Todoist, rememberthemilk, Trello, etc., I have finally ended up with Org-mode and later Org-Roam. Nothing else even comes close to the versatility, control and liberating and empowering experience. Sure, learning Emacs and Org-mode is quite some journey. But it's absolutely worth the time and effort. I even try different new things from time to time - out of curiosity, and because so many times before, I have felt like being stuck in a bubble. And so far, I have not found anything much better than Org-mode.

iLemming 2y ago

> Zettelkasten is an interesting thing, but more as a curiosity Zettelkasten is just an idea, and a great one. I don't know what you think it is, but all these apps - Obsidian, Roamresearch, Logseq, Org-roam - are based on that idea.

adamgordonbell 2y ago
I mean, it was a note taking system using a physical card catalog designed by Niklas Luhmann to help with his social science research. The goal of my notes is so far from this that I found the ideas interesting but unrelated to how I use Roam, etc.