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> much simpler services from AWS Like what, Lambda? I've seen so much horrible hacks and shit done with it (and other AWS services cough API gateway cough), th

> much simpler services from AWS Like what, Lambda? I've seen so much horrible hacks and shit done with it (and other AWS services cough API gateway cough), these days I rather prefer a set of Kubernetes descriptors and Dockerfiles. At least that combination all but enforces people doing Infrastructure-as-a-code and there's (almost) no possibility at all for "had to do live hack XYZ in the console and forgot to document it or apply it back in Terraform" .

scarface_74 2y ago
AWS App Runner https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/containers/introducing-aws-app-runner/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/containers/introducing-aws-app-... Google has something similar.
- icedchai 2y ago
  GCP has Cloud Run, which looks similar. App Runner is basically a wrapper on top of Fargate, right?
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    Yep. Every “serverless” compute service is just a wrapper on top of Firecracker including Lambda and Fargate.
icedchai 2y ago
In my experience, you are better off with ECS/Fargate than Lambda for serving an API. You get much more flexibility. Also, I've witnessed people editing Lambda code through the console instead of doing a real deploy. what a mess...
- scarface_74 2y ago
  You can’t edit Lambda code in the console when you deploy a Docker image to Lambda. As far as flexibility, while there have been third party libraries that let you deploy your standard Node/Express, .Net/ASP, Python/Flask app to Lambda, now there is an official first party solution https://github.com/awslabs/aws-lambda-web-adapter https://github.com/awslabs/aws-lambda-web-adapter And as far as ECS, it is stupid simple I’ve used this for years https://github.com/1Strategy/fargate-cloudformation-example/blob/master/fargate.yaml https://github.com/1Strategy/fargate-cloudformation-example/...
- mschuster91 2y ago
  > Also, I've witnessed people editing Lambda code through the console instead of doing a real deploy. what a mess... Yeah, exactly that's what I am talking about. Utter nightmare to recover from, especially if whoever set it up thought they needed to follow some uber-complex AWS blog post with >10 involved AWS services and didn't document any of it.
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    You can’t edit Lambda code directly in the console when using Docker deployments

scarface_74 2y ago

AWS App Runner https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/containers/introducing-aws-app-runner/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/containers/introducing-aws-app-... Google has something similar.

icedchai 2y ago
GCP has Cloud Run, which looks similar. App Runner is basically a wrapper on top of Fargate, right?
- scarface_74 2y ago
  Yep. Every “serverless” compute service is just a wrapper on top of Firecracker including Lambda and Fargate.

icedchai 2y ago

In my experience, you are better off with ECS/Fargate than Lambda for serving an API. You get much more flexibility. Also, I've witnessed people editing Lambda code through the console instead of doing a real deploy. what a mess...

scarface_74 2y ago
You can’t edit Lambda code in the console when you deploy a Docker image to Lambda. As far as flexibility, while there have been third party libraries that let you deploy your standard Node/Express, .Net/ASP, Python/Flask app to Lambda, now there is an official first party solution https://github.com/awslabs/aws-lambda-web-adapter https://github.com/awslabs/aws-lambda-web-adapter And as far as ECS, it is stupid simple I’ve used this for years https://github.com/1Strategy/fargate-cloudformation-example/blob/master/fargate.yaml https://github.com/1Strategy/fargate-cloudformation-example/...
mschuster91 2y ago
> Also, I've witnessed people editing Lambda code through the console instead of doing a real deploy. what a mess... Yeah, exactly that's what I am talking about. Utter nightmare to recover from, especially if whoever set it up thought they needed to follow some uber-complex AWS blog post with >10 involved AWS services and didn't document any of it.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  You can’t edit Lambda code directly in the console when using Docker deployments