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I'm actually surprised this other tidbit of Twitch news didn't make it to HN; PirateSoftware's record for longest "hype train"[0] was broken by vedal987 and his

I'm actually surprised this other tidbit of Twitch news didn't make it to HN; PirateSoftware's record for longest "hype train"[0] was broken by vedal987 and his AI Vtuber creation, Neuro-sama, on January 1st. He amassed tens of thousands of subscriptions, with PirateSoftware hoping to win the title back on April 1st[1] (which, in my opinion, is a weird proclamation considering it's directly asking your fans to give you a lot of money). [0] Essentially, how many subscriptions/bits are bought by the community within a relatively short time-frame. [1] https://xcancel.com/PirateSoftware/status/1874640375949983976 https://xcancel.com/PirateSoftware/status/187464037594998397...

nemomarx 2y ago
I guess it's kind of like hoping for a new record on a charity stream? Works for GDQ right?
- prophesi 2y ago
  I suppose! Honestly, I wish it worked like Humble Bundle wherein you have a sliding scale on who gets your money; the platform (Twitch/Amazon), the streamer, and the charity. I'm personally subscribed to PirateSoftware and GDQ because I don't want to see ads and hope a few of my bucks make it to them. Currently it's hard to know[0] how much you're giving the content creator versus Twitch/Amazon. [0] https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2024/01/24/an-update-to-several-streamer-payout-programs/ https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2024/01/24/an-update-to-several-st...
hiccuphippo 2y ago
Hype for the sake of hype? What are they hyping?
- sandspar 2y ago
  Young people want their generation to have its own "thing". Hype trains make them feel like their generation is unique.
  - qqqult 2y ago
    least cynical HN commenter
    - sandspar 2y ago
      Why do you believe it's cynical?
- tomoyoirl 2y ago
  Imagine $FOOTBALL_TEAM fans vs $OTHER_FOOTBALL_TEAM fans, except instead of their fervor being a minor factor setting the general mood in the arena, it’s the actual competition
- phatfish 2y ago
  They are hyping giving Amazon and the streamer money (exceptions for the trusted charity streams). Like when the cable shopping channel hosts would go crazy about how many foot spas they have sold in the last 5 mins. Except the host is some flashing message above the chat box showing what hype train "level" has been reached.
navane 2y ago
Directly asking your fans for money under a guise is now prime entrepreneurship
- Pesthuf 2y ago
  Are you a gigachad who's up for the "give me all your money"-challenge?! I'll even say your name on stream!
- Spivak 2y ago
  Eh, it's patronage. Can't really be that mad at people giving money to folks they find entertaining where the content is given away freely even to people who don't pay. There's so many sketchy business models, hard to be mad at one that's completely devoid of coercion and people enthusiastically participate in
  - navane 2y ago
    When giving money to the content creator is the game mechanic that allows the cc to "win", it becomes something else imho. There is "I tell stories and here's a hat you can put some pennies in" and there's "I'm in a contest, the one with the most money in their hat wins". I feel like there is some abuse of human traits to extract money going on here. But I agree, there's many wat more sketchy MOs around. In a way I have to respect this one, they make it work with so few moving parts.
yapyap 2y ago
> with PirateSoftware hoping to win the title back on April 1st[1] (which, in my opinion, is a weird proclamation considering it's directly asking your fans to give you a lot of money he wants to make money, that’s not really an odd proclamation
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RaiausderDose 2y ago
My gut feeling watching PirateSoftware says to me that something is wrong with this dude. Of course, he was a hacker for the government, worked at Blizzard hat made all the smart decisions, source is him. Every time he's saying something obvious (basic computer science concepts) and people are pretending he's the ubergod of knowledge. The dumb person's genius, I feel like. Something says to me there is much pretending involved.

nemomarx 2y ago

I guess it's kind of like hoping for a new record on a charity stream? Works for GDQ right?

prophesi 2y ago
I suppose! Honestly, I wish it worked like Humble Bundle wherein you have a sliding scale on who gets your money; the platform (Twitch/Amazon), the streamer, and the charity. I'm personally subscribed to PirateSoftware and GDQ because I don't want to see ads and hope a few of my bucks make it to them. Currently it's hard to know[0] how much you're giving the content creator versus Twitch/Amazon. [0] https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2024/01/24/an-update-to-several-streamer-payout-programs/ https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2024/01/24/an-update-to-several-st...

hiccuphippo 2y ago

Hype for the sake of hype? What are they hyping?

sandspar 2y ago
Young people want their generation to have its own "thing". Hype trains make them feel like their generation is unique.
- qqqult 2y ago
  least cynical HN commenter
  - sandspar 2y ago
    Why do you believe it's cynical?
tomoyoirl 2y ago
Imagine $FOOTBALL_TEAM fans vs $OTHER_FOOTBALL_TEAM fans, except instead of their fervor being a minor factor setting the general mood in the arena, it’s the actual competition
phatfish 2y ago
They are hyping giving Amazon and the streamer money (exceptions for the trusted charity streams). Like when the cable shopping channel hosts would go crazy about how many foot spas they have sold in the last 5 mins. Except the host is some flashing message above the chat box showing what hype train "level" has been reached.

navane 2y ago

Directly asking your fans for money under a guise is now prime entrepreneurship

Pesthuf 2y ago
Are you a gigachad who's up for the "give me all your money"-challenge?! I'll even say your name on stream!
Spivak 2y ago
Eh, it's patronage. Can't really be that mad at people giving money to folks they find entertaining where the content is given away freely even to people who don't pay. There's so many sketchy business models, hard to be mad at one that's completely devoid of coercion and people enthusiastically participate in
- navane 2y ago
  When giving money to the content creator is the game mechanic that allows the cc to "win", it becomes something else imho. There is "I tell stories and here's a hat you can put some pennies in" and there's "I'm in a contest, the one with the most money in their hat wins". I feel like there is some abuse of human traits to extract money going on here. But I agree, there's many wat more sketchy MOs around. In a way I have to respect this one, they make it work with so few moving parts.

yapyap 2y ago

> with PirateSoftware hoping to win the title back on April 1st[1] (which, in my opinion, is a weird proclamation considering it's directly asking your fans to give you a lot of money he wants to make money, that’s not really an odd proclamation

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RaiausderDose 2y ago

My gut feeling watching PirateSoftware says to me that something is wrong with this dude. Of course, he was a hacker for the government, worked at Blizzard hat made all the smart decisions, source is him. Every time he's saying something obvious (basic computer science concepts) and people are pretending he's the ubergod of knowledge. The dumb person's genius, I feel like. Something says to me there is much pretending involved.