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If not, then why the default opt-in?
by drawkward 2y ago
If not, then why the default opt-in?
- dialup_sounds 2y agoBecause it's a) a useful function for the app that b) can't practically be done entirely on-device, and c) they believe they're not sending anything private off-device.
- drawkward 2y agoNone of that justifies signing me up for something without my permission.
- dialup_sounds 2y agoThat wasn't the question you asked. You asked "If not [for training data], then why the default opt-in?" and I gave three alternative reasons.
- drawkward 2y agoNone of which are sufficient justifications...
- dialup_sounds 2y agoIt must be awfully convenient to believe that the only possible reason for it to be on is the same reason you made up entirely based on nothing. Personally, I don't find that logic convincing.
- drawkward 2y agoYour reasoning is also based on nothing beyond your own speculation.
- dialup_sounds 2y agono u a) Compensating for missing location metadata is a valid feature for a photo library. Peer competitor Google Photos also implements location estimation from landmarks. b) The sizes of contemporary general vision models and the size of the vector database for matching potentially millions of landmarks suggest that this is not suitable for running on-device. c) Apple's entire strategy is to do cloud computation without private data, so it stands to reason that they believe they're not using private data.
- foldr 2y agoApple turning a feature on by default can only possibly be a conspiracy to surreptitiously obtain training data from people’s photos? It couldn’t just be that they think most people will want the feature? It’s one thing to argue that Apple is doing this for nefarious reasons, but to suggest that this is somehow the only conceivable option is a bit nuts.
- drawkward 2y ago>Apple turning a feature on by default can only possibly be a conspiracy to surreptitiously obtain training data from people’s photos? Apple-scale companies have done far worse. It is hardly a "conspiracy" to allege Apple behaves like other companies of its ilk. >It couldn’t just be that they think most people will want the feature? Apple doesn't care what the end user thinks. "A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them" -Steve Jobs >only conceivable option is a bit nuts. I am merely suggesting it as the most likely option, not the only option.
- foldr 2y agoI think it's technically impossible for Apple to get training data from this due to the encryption. In which case it's not a likely option at all.