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I mean, that it’s a “surprise” and that he is upset he only found out about the features existence only two days before New Years seem a bit, well nonsense. App

by Erikun 2y ago

I mean, that it’s a “surprise” and that he is upset he only found out about the features existence only two days before New Years seem a bit, well nonsense. Apple mentioned the feature in the 2024 iPhone event, including that it will be a combination of both onboard ml and services (it’s at about 55 minutes in the stream). Then there’s the blog post that describes the privacy features fairly detailed from October 24 (Combining Machine Learning and Homomorphic Encryption in the Apple Ecosystem). I think the feature went live in iOS 18.1 which was released three days later on october 28 according to google. There’s even a post on Reddit from five months ago noting the toggle appearing in the beta. There is a debate that could be had about opt in vs opt out if services but the idea that apple tried to sneak the feature in or hid how it works doesn’t hold up in my opinion.

lapcat 2y ago
> Apple mentioned the feature in the 2024 iPhone event, including that it will be a combination of both onboard ml and services (it’s at about 55 minutes in the stream). I believe you're mistaken. At the 55 minute mark in the stream, Craig Federighi announced Visual Intelligence, exclusively for iPhone 16. That's not the same as Enhanced Visual Search, which appears to be available not only for all iPhone and iPad models but also for Mac. "Note: Visual intelligence with Camera Control requires Apple Intelligence and is available in iOS 18.2 or later on all iPhone 16 models." https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-visual-intelligence-with-camera-control-iph12eb1545e/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-visual-intelligen... Moreover, Apple Intelligence, and thus Visual Intelligence, is opt-in rather than opt-out. > Then there’s the blog post that describes the privacy features fairly detailed from October 24 (Combining Machine Learning and Homomorphic Encryption in the Apple Ecosystem). How many people read Apple's machine learning blog? I certainly don't. > I think the feature went live in iOS 18.1 That's what we're speculating, based on some vague evidence, but I'm not sure anybody knows for certain. > There’s even a post on Reddit from five months ago noting the toggle appearing in the beta. You're seriously citing a single obscure Reddit post as evidence that this wasn't a surprise to the general public?
- Erikun 2y ago
  Youre correct about stream, my bad but I feel you’re extremely uncharitable with your words. “There’s even a post on reddit […]” was what I wrote to note that people had picked up on the feature toggle during the beta which is also where the 18.1 info came from. How would you have liked to have received information about this feature? We might disagree wether the technical blog post is not good enough and, let’s face it, no one probably read the legal notice for Photos & privacy.
  - lapcat 2y ago
    > How would you have liked to have received information about this feature? This is not a difficult question. Obviously, from an Apple announcement directed to all Apple users, for example in a keynote event, a press release, or an in-app announcement of the new feature, giving the user an explicit option. > no one probably read the legal notice for Photos & privacy I did read the legal notice, which is how I became concerned in the first place, but the notice was at the bottom of the Photos Settings, alongside the toggle to turn off Enhanced Visual Search, neither of which I discovered except by chance last week.

by Erikun 2y ago

lapcat 2y ago

> Apple mentioned the feature in the 2024 iPhone event, including that it will be a combination of both onboard ml and services (it’s at about 55 minutes in the stream). I believe you're mistaken. At the 55 minute mark in the stream, Craig Federighi announced Visual Intelligence, exclusively for iPhone 16. That's not the same as Enhanced Visual Search, which appears to be available not only for all iPhone and iPad models but also for Mac. "Note: Visual intelligence with Camera Control requires Apple Intelligence and is available in iOS 18.2 or later on all iPhone 16 models." https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-visual-intelligence-with-camera-control-iph12eb1545e/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-visual-intelligen... Moreover, Apple Intelligence, and thus Visual Intelligence, is opt-in rather than opt-out. > Then there’s the blog post that describes the privacy features fairly detailed from October 24 (Combining Machine Learning and Homomorphic Encryption in the Apple Ecosystem). How many people read Apple's machine learning blog? I certainly don't. > I think the feature went live in iOS 18.1 That's what we're speculating, based on some vague evidence, but I'm not sure anybody knows for certain. > There’s even a post on Reddit from five months ago noting the toggle appearing in the beta. You're seriously citing a single obscure Reddit post as evidence that this wasn't a surprise to the general public?

Erikun 2y ago
Youre correct about stream, my bad but I feel you’re extremely uncharitable with your words. “There’s even a post on reddit […]” was what I wrote to note that people had picked up on the feature toggle during the beta which is also where the 18.1 info came from. How would you have liked to have received information about this feature? We might disagree wether the technical blog post is not good enough and, let’s face it, no one probably read the legal notice for Photos & privacy.
- lapcat 2y ago
  > How would you have liked to have received information about this feature? This is not a difficult question. Obviously, from an Apple announcement directed to all Apple users, for example in a keynote event, a press release, or an in-app announcement of the new feature, giving the user an explicit option. > no one probably read the legal notice for Photos & privacy I did read the legal notice, which is how I became concerned in the first place, but the notice was at the bottom of the Photos Settings, alongside the toggle to turn off Enhanced Visual Search, neither of which I discovered except by chance last week.