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I always found it interesting that the big tech firms are so adamant about internet "freedom" when they've pretty much done everything they could to govern peop

by boh 2y ago

I always found it interesting that the big tech firms are so adamant about internet "freedom" when they've pretty much done everything they could to govern people's experience of that internet. I'm sorry if the "think about the small businesses" defense coming out the most valuable companies in existence seems a little thin. This isn't a David and Goliath fight as much as it is Godzilla vs Mothra--big companies fighting over who gets a bigger share of the profits. The net hasn't been neutral in a long time, irrespective of what the FCC has been doing. This isn't "we the people" vs big business. it's big business vs big business. "We the people" lost the fight a long time ago.

justwool 2y ago
What even nonsense is this? Other than I think therefore I type. Please can you actually explain how this is just big business vs big business? When this solidifies practices that allow major parties to unfairly dominate? Do you even understand what net neutrality rules are/do?
- ysavir 2y ago
  I think their point is that the effects of removing net neutrality mirror the effects already seen on large platforms, which is how most people use the web. Twitter, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, etc already have very opinionated views on what content can be on their platforms, and which content gets shown to users vs which gets lost in the mist of cyberspace (or is shadow banned). So the competition we're seeing here, between providers and tech platforms, is a competition over who gets to have this form of control over the media.
- boh 2y ago
  They make the companies you want to work for slightly less profitable. I guess that counts as immoral. I'm just sick of this grass roots lobbying that we're all supposed to take seriously as a fight for freedom.
disambiguation 2y ago
My reaction as well, the modern FAANG internet is far from free, and probably never will be again - arguments of content moderation aside. Regardless, the net neutrality movement was always about big tech protecting themselves from ISP bridge tolls, though I'm sure those costs will be passed on to consumers.

by boh 2y ago

justwool 2y ago

What even nonsense is this? Other than I think therefore I type. Please can you actually explain how this is just big business vs big business? When this solidifies practices that allow major parties to unfairly dominate? Do you even understand what net neutrality rules are/do?

ysavir 2y ago
I think their point is that the effects of removing net neutrality mirror the effects already seen on large platforms, which is how most people use the web. Twitter, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, etc already have very opinionated views on what content can be on their platforms, and which content gets shown to users vs which gets lost in the mist of cyberspace (or is shadow banned). So the competition we're seeing here, between providers and tech platforms, is a competition over who gets to have this form of control over the media.
boh 2y ago
They make the companies you want to work for slightly less profitable. I guess that counts as immoral. I'm just sick of this grass roots lobbying that we're all supposed to take seriously as a fight for freedom.

disambiguation 2y ago

My reaction as well, the modern FAANG internet is far from free, and probably never will be again - arguments of content moderation aside. Regardless, the net neutrality movement was always about big tech protecting themselves from ISP bridge tolls, though I'm sure those costs will be passed on to consumers.