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Let me quote you: "Are you suggesting there is no possible way to make the government more efficient in a way that reduces costs by some significant amount?" T

Let me quote you: "Are you suggesting there is no possible way to make the government more efficient in a way that reduces costs by some significant amount?" The poster said no such thing.

refurb 2y ago
The poster said "DOGE is BS". DOGE is looking to make the government more efficient, so the poster said "making the government more efficient is BS". Thus my question seems like a pretty good rephrasing.
- psb217 2y ago
  If someone says: "I'm not a big fan of football", they're not necessarily saying: "We should kill all football players." If someone says: "I think DOGE is BS", they're not saying: "I think any and all efforts to improve goverment efficiency are BS." Sometimes, the thing a person says is the thing they mean to say. You're clearly creating a strawman.
  - refurb 2y ago
    But DOGE is basically “make government more efficient”, so they are interchangeable. Trying to give an analogy like “i don’t like football” and “we should kill all football players” for my statement is pretty disingenuous and a massive strawman itself.
    - Arn_Thor 2y ago
      We’re trying to explain to you that they’re NOT interchangeable. What you’re doing is applying a false syllogism, but in question form. Let me illustrate with an example in a statement form: “A rock can’t fly. You can’t fly, therefore you are a rock”. You’re saying “A wants to do X. You are criticizing A, so you must object to X being done.” That is making an unjustified leap to your conclusion. It doesn’t matter what the subject is, this is a logic error.
      - refurb 2y ago
        You’ve done a terrible job explaining why they are different. The very definition of DOGE is government efficiency. So please explain why a team focused on efficiency is not the same as a focus o. government efficiency.
        lazyasciiart 2y ago
        And the definition of DPRK is the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea, yet people frequently suggest that North Korea is not a democratic place.

Let me quote you: "Are you suggesting there is no possible way to make the government more efficient in a way that reduces costs by some significant amount?" The poster said no such thing.

refurb 2y ago

The poster said "DOGE is BS". DOGE is looking to make the government more efficient, so the poster said "making the government more efficient is BS". Thus my question seems like a pretty good rephrasing.

psb217 2y ago
If someone says: "I'm not a big fan of football", they're not necessarily saying: "We should kill all football players." If someone says: "I think DOGE is BS", they're not saying: "I think any and all efforts to improve goverment efficiency are BS." Sometimes, the thing a person says is the thing they mean to say. You're clearly creating a strawman.
- refurb 2y ago
  But DOGE is basically “make government more efficient”, so they are interchangeable. Trying to give an analogy like “i don’t like football” and “we should kill all football players” for my statement is pretty disingenuous and a massive strawman itself.
  - Arn_Thor 2y ago
    We’re trying to explain to you that they’re NOT interchangeable. What you’re doing is applying a false syllogism, but in question form. Let me illustrate with an example in a statement form: “A rock can’t fly. You can’t fly, therefore you are a rock”. You’re saying “A wants to do X. You are criticizing A, so you must object to X being done.” That is making an unjustified leap to your conclusion. It doesn’t matter what the subject is, this is a logic error.
    - refurb 2y ago
      You’ve done a terrible job explaining why they are different. The very definition of DOGE is government efficiency. So please explain why a team focused on efficiency is not the same as a focus o. government efficiency.
      - lazyasciiart 2y ago
        And the definition of DPRK is the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea, yet people frequently suggest that North Korea is not a democratic place.