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Yes, like Dribbble, we trust our designers to spot designers' talent. But unlike Dribbble, we're not looking to build a popularity contest. Actually, let me a

Yes, like Dribbble, we trust our designers to spot designers' talent. But unlike Dribbble, we're not looking to build a popularity contest. Actually, let me ask here: how much does popularity of a designer matter to you in choosing a designer to join your team?

kyro 14y ago
It depends... For a bootstrapping startup trying to ship: not much. For a brick and mortar business looking to help establish their web presence with a mobile app: quite a bit. And often times it's the latter category of clients that pay more. I'm just brainstorming here, not criticizing Scoutzie at all. You guys are off to a great start.
- jenntoda 14y ago
  Hey - no worries, we appreciate your honest feedback! We just might try a "top 10" list of some kind ;) Good breakdown on where popularity matters. Thank you. We'd love even more ideas too if you care to share!
mnicole 14y ago
I've been pretty vocal about my problem with the popularity contest, but there's no denying Dribbble's ability to have followers and the number of those followers greatly enhances the promotion of your product if you let your designer post shots of the process. While the cliques can't be avoided and everyone on Scoutzie is likely to crosspost on Dribbble anyway, I think there's a lot to be said about highlighting designers that are working on projects they got through your site. It also looks as though all it takes is downloading the Teehan+Lax template and making a few fake iOS layouts to join as opposed to real mobile/responsive experience. I'd find a lot more usefulness as both a designer and a scout if there was more to it than that since mobile UX is imperative to the success of the product and UI has a lot to do with that (static images - especially taken at those dreaded angled/screenshotted Dribbble perspectives - of an interactive experience don't sell me).. otherwise I'll just search Dribbble for "mobile" to find someone's profile and get a better gist of their overall skillset, be it more code- or design-based.
- kirillzubovsky 14y ago
  > It also looks as though all it takes is downloading the Teehan+Lax template and making a few fake iOS layouts Right, because your quality of work is so outstanding, that you are to judge. A little jealous, perhaps?
- jenntoda 14y ago
  I'd greatly appreciate it if you can call out specific examples of designs on Scoutzie that you believe are Teehan+Lax templates and fake iOS layouts. I agree UX is imperative to the success of a product. But so too is the code, its marketing efforts, and more. Can you elaborate a bit more on what you're getting at?
  - mnicole 14y ago
    > static images - especially taken at those dreaded angled/screenshotted Dribbble perspectives - of an interactive experience don't sell me. After Kirill's remark I'm not sure why I'm replying, but my overall point is that the lack of minimum shots-per-project give little to no context of the app or the cohesiveness of the UI, which is why it's hard to tell if they're real or just concepts. I also think it would benefit the designers and scouts alike to have their uploads sorted by project so you aren't just clicking into a random assortment of thumbnails and you/your perspective clients can link others to specific ones instead of saying "Click on the one with the big pink star."
    - kirillzubovsky 14y ago
      Nicole. Thanks for replying. Indeed, I apologize for my comment. I do care a huge deal about the designers on Scoutzie and your comment came across (to me) as if you were accusing the designers of lacking talent. Although some may be better at details, some are better at UI ...etc, I do believe the folks on Scoutzie are overall great and deserve to be recognized for their work. There is a huge gap between average and great, and whenever someone suggests that Scoutzie folks are just average, I won't hesitate to remind them otherwise. Given your further feedback, I don't think you were aiming at the designers, so my apologies for incorrectly assessing your comment and snapping back. Sorry.

kyro 14y ago

It depends... For a bootstrapping startup trying to ship: not much. For a brick and mortar business looking to help establish their web presence with a mobile app: quite a bit. And often times it's the latter category of clients that pay more. I'm just brainstorming here, not criticizing Scoutzie at all. You guys are off to a great start.

jenntoda 14y ago
Hey - no worries, we appreciate your honest feedback! We just might try a "top 10" list of some kind ;) Good breakdown on where popularity matters. Thank you. We'd love even more ideas too if you care to share!

mnicole 14y ago

I've been pretty vocal about my problem with the popularity contest, but there's no denying Dribbble's ability to have followers and the number of those followers greatly enhances the promotion of your product if you let your designer post shots of the process. While the cliques can't be avoided and everyone on Scoutzie is likely to crosspost on Dribbble anyway, I think there's a lot to be said about highlighting designers that are working on projects they got through your site. It also looks as though all it takes is downloading the Teehan+Lax template and making a few fake iOS layouts to join as opposed to real mobile/responsive experience. I'd find a lot more usefulness as both a designer and a scout if there was more to it than that since mobile UX is imperative to the success of the product and UI has a lot to do with that (static images - especially taken at those dreaded angled/screenshotted Dribbble perspectives - of an interactive experience don't sell me).. otherwise I'll just search Dribbble for "mobile" to find someone's profile and get a better gist of their overall skillset, be it more code- or design-based.

kirillzubovsky 14y ago
> It also looks as though all it takes is downloading the Teehan+Lax template and making a few fake iOS layouts Right, because your quality of work is so outstanding, that you are to judge. A little jealous, perhaps?
jenntoda 14y ago
I'd greatly appreciate it if you can call out specific examples of designs on Scoutzie that you believe are Teehan+Lax templates and fake iOS layouts. I agree UX is imperative to the success of a product. But so too is the code, its marketing efforts, and more. Can you elaborate a bit more on what you're getting at?
- mnicole 14y ago
  > static images - especially taken at those dreaded angled/screenshotted Dribbble perspectives - of an interactive experience don't sell me. After Kirill's remark I'm not sure why I'm replying, but my overall point is that the lack of minimum shots-per-project give little to no context of the app or the cohesiveness of the UI, which is why it's hard to tell if they're real or just concepts. I also think it would benefit the designers and scouts alike to have their uploads sorted by project so you aren't just clicking into a random assortment of thumbnails and you/your perspective clients can link others to specific ones instead of saying "Click on the one with the big pink star."
  - kirillzubovsky 14y ago
    Nicole. Thanks for replying. Indeed, I apologize for my comment. I do care a huge deal about the designers on Scoutzie and your comment came across (to me) as if you were accusing the designers of lacking talent. Although some may be better at details, some are better at UI ...etc, I do believe the folks on Scoutzie are overall great and deserve to be recognized for their work. There is a huge gap between average and great, and whenever someone suggests that Scoutzie folks are just average, I won't hesitate to remind them otherwise. Given your further feedback, I don't think you were aiming at the designers, so my apologies for incorrectly assessing your comment and snapping back. Sorry.