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It's a designer curate designer approach. The number is not limited, but each new designer can only join by getting invited another designer already listed on S

It's a designer curate designer approach. The number is not limited, but each new designer can only join by getting invited another designer already listed on Scoutzie. Instead of limiting the total number for the top 20, the bar is at "awesome": more than 444 designers can be awesome, each in their own right.

kyro 14y ago
Ah, so like Dribbble. No doubt there are more than 20 awesome designers out there, but from a client's point of view, I would think the zero-sum nature of a top X list would do a bit more to ensure that the designers are worth their weight. Think of it like Billboard's Top 10/20/100. I'm not saying this model would be better, just that it would be interesting to see how this sort of presentation would influence a potential client's perception of quality.
- jenntoda 14y ago
  Yes, like Dribbble, we trust our designers to spot designers' talent. But unlike Dribbble, we're not looking to build a popularity contest. Actually, let me ask here: how much does popularity of a designer matter to you in choosing a designer to join your team?
  - kyro 14y ago
    It depends... For a bootstrapping startup trying to ship: not much. For a brick and mortar business looking to help establish their web presence with a mobile app: quite a bit. And often times it's the latter category of clients that pay more. I'm just brainstorming here, not criticizing Scoutzie at all. You guys are off to a great start.
    - jenntoda 14y ago
      Hey - no worries, we appreciate your honest feedback! We just might try a "top 10" list of some kind ;) Good breakdown on where popularity matters. Thank you. We'd love even more ideas too if you care to share!
  - mnicole 14y ago
    I've been pretty vocal about my problem with the popularity contest, but there's no denying Dribbble's ability to have followers and the number of those followers greatly enhances the promotion of your product if you let your designer post shots of the process. While the cliques can't be avoided and everyone on Scoutzie is likely to crosspost on Dribbble anyway, I think there's a lot to be said about highlighting designers that are working on projects they got through your site. It also looks as though all it takes is downloading the Teehan+Lax template and making a few fake iOS layouts to join as opposed to real mobile/responsive experience. I'd find a lot more usefulness as both a designer and a scout if there was more to it than that since mobile UX is imperative to the success of the product and UI has a lot to do with that (static images - especially taken at those dreaded angled/screenshotted Dribbble perspectives - of an interactive experience don't sell me).. otherwise I'll just search Dribbble for "mobile" to find someone's profile and get a better gist of their overall skillset, be it more code- or design-based.
    - kirillzubovsky 14y ago
      > It also looks as though all it takes is downloading the Teehan+Lax template and making a few fake iOS layouts Right, because your quality of work is so outstanding, that you are to judge. A little jealous, perhaps?
    - jenntoda 14y ago
      I'd greatly appreciate it if you can call out specific examples of designs on Scoutzie that you believe are Teehan+Lax templates and fake iOS layouts. I agree UX is imperative to the success of a product. But so too is the code, its marketing efforts, and more. Can you elaborate a bit more on what you're getting at?
      - mnicole 14y ago
        > static images - especially taken at those dreaded angled/screenshotted Dribbble perspectives - of an interactive experience don't sell me. After Kirill's remark I'm not sure why I'm replying, but my overall point is that the lack of minimum shots-per-project give little to no context of the app or the cohesiveness of the UI, which is why it's hard to tell if they're real or just concepts. I also think it would benefit the designers and scouts alike to have their uploads sorted by project so you aren't just clicking into a random assortment of thumbnails and you/your perspective clients can link others to specific ones instead of saying "Click on the one with the big pink star."

kyro 14y ago

Ah, so like Dribbble. No doubt there are more than 20 awesome designers out there, but from a client's point of view, I would think the zero-sum nature of a top X list would do a bit more to ensure that the designers are worth their weight. Think of it like Billboard's Top 10/20/100. I'm not saying this model would be better, just that it would be interesting to see how this sort of presentation would influence a potential client's perception of quality.

jenntoda 14y ago
Yes, like Dribbble, we trust our designers to spot designers' talent. But unlike Dribbble, we're not looking to build a popularity contest. Actually, let me ask here: how much does popularity of a designer matter to you in choosing a designer to join your team?
- kyro 14y ago
  It depends... For a bootstrapping startup trying to ship: not much. For a brick and mortar business looking to help establish their web presence with a mobile app: quite a bit. And often times it's the latter category of clients that pay more. I'm just brainstorming here, not criticizing Scoutzie at all. You guys are off to a great start.
  - jenntoda 14y ago
    Hey - no worries, we appreciate your honest feedback! We just might try a "top 10" list of some kind ;) Good breakdown on where popularity matters. Thank you. We'd love even more ideas too if you care to share!
- mnicole 14y ago
  I've been pretty vocal about my problem with the popularity contest, but there's no denying Dribbble's ability to have followers and the number of those followers greatly enhances the promotion of your product if you let your designer post shots of the process. While the cliques can't be avoided and everyone on Scoutzie is likely to crosspost on Dribbble anyway, I think there's a lot to be said about highlighting designers that are working on projects they got through your site. It also looks as though all it takes is downloading the Teehan+Lax template and making a few fake iOS layouts to join as opposed to real mobile/responsive experience. I'd find a lot more usefulness as both a designer and a scout if there was more to it than that since mobile UX is imperative to the success of the product and UI has a lot to do with that (static images - especially taken at those dreaded angled/screenshotted Dribbble perspectives - of an interactive experience don't sell me).. otherwise I'll just search Dribbble for "mobile" to find someone's profile and get a better gist of their overall skillset, be it more code- or design-based.
  - kirillzubovsky 14y ago
    > It also looks as though all it takes is downloading the Teehan+Lax template and making a few fake iOS layouts Right, because your quality of work is so outstanding, that you are to judge. A little jealous, perhaps?
  - jenntoda 14y ago
    I'd greatly appreciate it if you can call out specific examples of designs on Scoutzie that you believe are Teehan+Lax templates and fake iOS layouts. I agree UX is imperative to the success of a product. But so too is the code, its marketing efforts, and more. Can you elaborate a bit more on what you're getting at?
    - mnicole 14y ago
      > static images - especially taken at those dreaded angled/screenshotted Dribbble perspectives - of an interactive experience don't sell me. After Kirill's remark I'm not sure why I'm replying, but my overall point is that the lack of minimum shots-per-project give little to no context of the app or the cohesiveness of the UI, which is why it's hard to tell if they're real or just concepts. I also think it would benefit the designers and scouts alike to have their uploads sorted by project so you aren't just clicking into a random assortment of thumbnails and you/your perspective clients can link others to specific ones instead of saying "Click on the one with the big pink star."