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Please do not use that term! I cannot fly! I don't believe in that sort of thing, either. I'm libertarian, and would rather not sue over much of anything! Espec

Please do not use that term! I cannot fly! I don't believe in that sort of thing, either. I'm libertarian, and would rather not sue over much of anything! Especially something that would lack standing. Oddly enough, I haven't been interrupted by CloudFlare too much. I do use Firefox on Windows, but haven't gotten into Linux as of yet. Although it might be fun, I'd probably break it too much lol! I do run adblock, mostly for accessibility reasons. I don't want ads all over the page, when I'm trying to navigate. That makes the web suck a whole lot less! I do like RSS, I wish it was still supported in the browser, without an extension.

PaulHoule 2y ago
(1) I was working for a small town web design shop in a town dominated by two higher ed institutions circa 2005 where I was finishing up a system which handled applications for an internship program run by the NSF. (e.g. complex forms, scanners to stop people from uploading CVs in Word that are full of malware, etc.) I was talking w/ the principal about how bad the usability was of applications in higher ed and that I was surprised that there hadn't been a lawsuit to the effect that "I tried to apply to organization X and couldn't because their website was screwed up" and he said that he thought they'd probably been settled out of court. I work at the Uni now and circa 2015 we had a lawsuit against us because we made people use terrible quality applications that weren't accessible. I'd make the case that that sort of organization which has a rigid social hierarchy (e.g. grad student, postdoc, assistant professor, associate professor, full professor, department head, provost, ...) finds it close to impossible to confront quality problems that it finds invisible. (e.g. if you submitted a bad paper to a journal or had sex with an undergraduate it could understand that but a web site could set your computer on fire and they wouldn't see a problem with that.) Since then all higher ed organizations feel a lot of need to offer accessible applications. My unit sells a subscription service to a data product and in sales talks and other conversations with our customers we find accessibility is a priority so it is a priority for me as a web dev. (2) Don't get me started about RSS. I think it is great, kinda. Fir $10 a month I can pay Superfeedr to scrape 110 news sites and send them to my web hook which queues them in SQS and lets my RSS reader YOShInOn ingest them at its own convenience. I'd like to subscribe to 2000 or so independent blogs but don't want to pay a $100+ month scraping bill. Could I write my own crawler? Sure! But polling is for the birds. You really want to get a ping just when the event happens (ActivityPub? PubSubHubbub? AT Protocol? XMPP?) but instead you have to poll. There are two kinds of polling: (a) too fast, (b) too slow. Should I run it at home over my slow ADSL connection (is my wife having trouble using the internet because my crawler is having a bad day?) or should I run it the cloud where trying to save $5 a month on my bill could cause EBS volumes to go swap crazy costing me $500 a month? It's awful for people who run feeds, see https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/05/27/feed/ https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/05/27/feed/ although she should (a) just get a CDN and get over it or (b) give up on RSS. Sorry, people write stupid stateless crawlers with curl and making your crawler stateful enough to respect her silly 429 protocol makes RSS no longer a simple protocol. On top of that people keep failing with the same failing user interfaces for RSS readers that have been failing with 1999 with no insight that "people tried that in 2001 and it failed". People like Dave Weiner have no insight why the world couldn't care less about RSS because they just won't recotnize there are problems.) (e.g. if you gotta know, YOShInOn works like TikTok... I never "mark as read", it doesn't show me little windows that show me the top N from 20 different sites, none of that.) (3) If it's your electric bill it really is an essential service that there is no competition for. Frequently markets work, but not in that case, even if Enron was able to fool some legislators that they would work in that case for a while.
- sbierwagen 2y ago
  Polling for time sensitive things sucks. But for RSS, why not just poll once a day? Even if you're polling once an hour, a 304 response is, what, a few hundred bytes? I just checked my own server logs, and HTTP 200 responses were 12.7% of the total requests against my rss.xml. Which is suboptimal I guess (I haven't made a single post this year) but isn't outrageously terrible.
  - PaulHoule 2y ago
    Maybe it's lame but I sure wish my agent could know the exact second that a new post gets posted to https://www.righto.com/ https://www.righto.com/ and automatically posts it to HN. Sometimes having an average score/post doesn't seem enough to me and I think of adding a population of high scoring posts. Like that blog. Or those articles that have been posted 20 times before and gotten between 200-1200 points each time and will probably do so if you post them again.
- webspinner 2y ago
  Sure I believe in accessibility, just not lawsuits, yes two different things! If I don't like the way a service works, I cut ties with that particular service, and don't complain. Sometimes I'll contact them first, to advise them they have an accessibility issue, but I'm nice about it. I did this last year actually, I was testing feeder, I contacted them, to let them know I would be testing the service. When it really wasn't working for me, I needed them to make some tweaks, when the tweaks they made didn't work for me, mostly change the tabbed navigation that I wasn't using, I left. That being said, I like RSS a lot! However RSS readers these days leave a whole lot to be desired! I've been looking for one since 2013. I did use Miniflux for a while, until the service that was managing it for me shut down. I didn't learn terminal when I was young lol. I also have chronic migraines, so not sure if I could try and fix that now.

PaulHoule 2y ago

(1) I was working for a small town web design shop in a town dominated by two higher ed institutions circa 2005 where I was finishing up a system which handled applications for an internship program run by the NSF. (e.g. complex forms, scanners to stop people from uploading CVs in Word that are full of malware, etc.) I was talking w/ the principal about how bad the usability was of applications in higher ed and that I was surprised that there hadn't been a lawsuit to the effect that "I tried to apply to organization X and couldn't because their website was screwed up" and he said that he thought they'd probably been settled out of court. I work at the Uni now and circa 2015 we had a lawsuit against us because we made people use terrible quality applications that weren't accessible. I'd make the case that that sort of organization which has a rigid social hierarchy (e.g. grad student, postdoc, assistant professor, associate professor, full professor, department head, provost, ...) finds it close to impossible to confront quality problems that it finds invisible. (e.g. if you submitted a bad paper to a journal or had sex with an undergraduate it could understand that but a web site could set your computer on fire and they wouldn't see a problem with that.) Since then all higher ed organizations feel a lot of need to offer accessible applications. My unit sells a subscription service to a data product and in sales talks and other conversations with our customers we find accessibility is a priority so it is a priority for me as a web dev. (2) Don't get me started about RSS. I think it is great, kinda. Fir $10 a month I can pay Superfeedr to scrape 110 news sites and send them to my web hook which queues them in SQS and lets my RSS reader YOShInOn ingest them at its own convenience. I'd like to subscribe to 2000 or so independent blogs but don't want to pay a $100+ month scraping bill. Could I write my own crawler? Sure! But polling is for the birds. You really want to get a ping just when the event happens (ActivityPub? PubSubHubbub? AT Protocol? XMPP?) but instead you have to poll. There are two kinds of polling: (a) too fast, (b) too slow. Should I run it at home over my slow ADSL connection (is my wife having trouble using the internet because my crawler is having a bad day?) or should I run it the cloud where trying to save $5 a month on my bill could cause EBS volumes to go swap crazy costing me $500 a month? It's awful for people who run feeds, see https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/05/27/feed/ https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/05/27/feed/ although she should (a) just get a CDN and get over it or (b) give up on RSS. Sorry, people write stupid stateless crawlers with curl and making your crawler stateful enough to respect her silly 429 protocol makes RSS no longer a simple protocol. On top of that people keep failing with the same failing user interfaces for RSS readers that have been failing with 1999 with no insight that "people tried that in 2001 and it failed". People like Dave Weiner have no insight why the world couldn't care less about RSS because they just won't recotnize there are problems.) (e.g. if you gotta know, YOShInOn works like TikTok... I never "mark as read", it doesn't show me little windows that show me the top N from 20 different sites, none of that.) (3) If it's your electric bill it really is an essential service that there is no competition for. Frequently markets work, but not in that case, even if Enron was able to fool some legislators that they would work in that case for a while.

sbierwagen 2y ago
Polling for time sensitive things sucks. But for RSS, why not just poll once a day? Even if you're polling once an hour, a 304 response is, what, a few hundred bytes? I just checked my own server logs, and HTTP 200 responses were 12.7% of the total requests against my rss.xml. Which is suboptimal I guess (I haven't made a single post this year) but isn't outrageously terrible.
- PaulHoule 2y ago
  Maybe it's lame but I sure wish my agent could know the exact second that a new post gets posted to https://www.righto.com/ https://www.righto.com/ and automatically posts it to HN. Sometimes having an average score/post doesn't seem enough to me and I think of adding a population of high scoring posts. Like that blog. Or those articles that have been posted 20 times before and gotten between 200-1200 points each time and will probably do so if you post them again.
webspinner 2y ago
Sure I believe in accessibility, just not lawsuits, yes two different things! If I don't like the way a service works, I cut ties with that particular service, and don't complain. Sometimes I'll contact them first, to advise them they have an accessibility issue, but I'm nice about it. I did this last year actually, I was testing feeder, I contacted them, to let them know I would be testing the service. When it really wasn't working for me, I needed them to make some tweaks, when the tweaks they made didn't work for me, mostly change the tabbed navigation that I wasn't using, I left. That being said, I like RSS a lot! However RSS readers these days leave a whole lot to be desired! I've been looking for one since 2013. I did use Miniflux for a while, until the service that was managing it for me shut down. I didn't learn terminal when I was young lol. I also have chronic migraines, so not sure if I could try and fix that now.