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You are disengaged from consensus reality if you don’t understand why thinking the 2020 election was in any way fraudulent is an extreme view.

llamaimperative 2y ago
I agree but I think s/he showed good faith with the rest of the comment and shouldn't be flagged. GP's surprise that Taibbi (author of the Twitter Files, hired by Musk) said "there is no evidence of government involvement in the laptop story" is great evidence of the fact that many people just live in informational wormholes.
- FloorEgg 2y ago
  Thank you. I think someone (or maybe multiple people) just mass flagged all my comments, including ones that I struggle to see as controversial. My curiosity and questioning of the "consensus reality" apparently really upset someone. Doesn't exactly make me more confident in their opinions, if when I question them or try to understand them by comparing my own views people attempt to silence me unjustly (I didn't break any HN rules as far as I can tell, and I checked). I spend about an hour a week on HN, and about another hour a week combined mixed between reddit, twitter, NYT, reuters, and probably a couple others I am forgetting. Just trying to get a pulse of what's going on across a wide range of sources. Most of my time consuming information is reading books and listening to podcasts. I have listened to several Elon musk interviews (Lex Fridman mostly). Does this explain my "information wormhole"?
  - wqaatwt 2y ago
    > when I question them or try to understand them by comparin You didn’t do that in good faith, though. Just entirely handwaving his support for far-right parties in Europe can’t really lead to any productive discussion? Can it?
    - FloorEgg 2y ago
      I don't understand. How is it that my comment can't lead to any productive discussion? I don't know anything about that AfD party, why Elon supports them, or their policies. At a glance it does appear the Elon supports them. I am taking the previous commenter at their word that the party backs "complete closure" of the EU borders, but I can't confirm or deny it yet. I haven't looked into it yet. At a glance it does seem extreme (from an Overton window perspective) for Elon to be backing a political party that wants to break up the EU. How was my previous comment handwaving? I have to expand into all of the above instead of summarizing my impression in order for me to not be handwaving? Like... what?
FloorEgg 2y ago
Or maybe I don't understand what you are saying. Are you saying that Elon is claiming that the 2020 election was fraudulent? Because if you are, then its news to me. I didn't know he held that stance.

llamaimperative 2y ago

I agree but I think s/he showed good faith with the rest of the comment and shouldn't be flagged. GP's surprise that Taibbi (author of the Twitter Files, hired by Musk) said "there is no evidence of government involvement in the laptop story" is great evidence of the fact that many people just live in informational wormholes.

FloorEgg 2y ago
Thank you. I think someone (or maybe multiple people) just mass flagged all my comments, including ones that I struggle to see as controversial. My curiosity and questioning of the "consensus reality" apparently really upset someone. Doesn't exactly make me more confident in their opinions, if when I question them or try to understand them by comparing my own views people attempt to silence me unjustly (I didn't break any HN rules as far as I can tell, and I checked). I spend about an hour a week on HN, and about another hour a week combined mixed between reddit, twitter, NYT, reuters, and probably a couple others I am forgetting. Just trying to get a pulse of what's going on across a wide range of sources. Most of my time consuming information is reading books and listening to podcasts. I have listened to several Elon musk interviews (Lex Fridman mostly). Does this explain my "information wormhole"?
- wqaatwt 2y ago
  > when I question them or try to understand them by comparin You didn’t do that in good faith, though. Just entirely handwaving his support for far-right parties in Europe can’t really lead to any productive discussion? Can it?
  - FloorEgg 2y ago
    I don't understand. How is it that my comment can't lead to any productive discussion? I don't know anything about that AfD party, why Elon supports them, or their policies. At a glance it does appear the Elon supports them. I am taking the previous commenter at their word that the party backs "complete closure" of the EU borders, but I can't confirm or deny it yet. I haven't looked into it yet. At a glance it does seem extreme (from an Overton window perspective) for Elon to be backing a political party that wants to break up the EU. How was my previous comment handwaving? I have to expand into all of the above instead of summarizing my impression in order for me to not be handwaving? Like... what?

FloorEgg 2y ago

Or maybe I don't understand what you are saying. Are you saying that Elon is claiming that the 2020 election was fraudulent? Because if you are, then its news to me. I didn't know he held that stance.