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I watched the video and I am pretty sure that the rage is warranted at this time. There is plenty of context given: Honey and their browser extension is swappin

I watched the video and I am pretty sure that the rage is warranted at this time. There is plenty of context given: Honey and their browser extension is swapping out cookies and lying about it to the end user - it does not matter if "everyone else is doing it as well". It's bad and it needs to stop.

twostorytower 2y ago
They don't just swap out everyone's cookies. They comply their the affiliate network's "stand down" policies. Which means they don't actively try to poach commissions in the same shopping session. These are terms everyone agrees to, including creators. If it's the next day, most merchants don't pay out for referrals older than 24 hours anyways. So like I said, there are some legitimate problems with the affiliate industry, but the rage should be directed at the affiliate networks that dictate the terms. They could easily switch to first click attribution which would solve this problem.
- chinathrow 2y ago
  Did we watch the same video? Where one commission was fully wiped out by Honey vs it would have been paid out if Honey was not installed?
  - twostorytower 2y ago
    You can replicate his same case and see for yourself. Click an affiliate link and go to checkout. Honey won't pop-up like normal. He doesn't provide the context for what his timescale is for his specific case. He cites that it can be up to 30 days later and Honey will still take the commission, which is true, but most merchants don't honor any cookies that are older than a day anyways. I'm not saying this isn't a problem, it's just not a Honey-specific problem. If he actually wanted to influence change, he should cover the affiliate networks responsible for dictating this behavior (CJ, Impact, Rakuten, Awin, etc). The extensions are forced to comply by their rules.

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I watched the video and I am pretty sure that the rage is warranted at this time. There is plenty of context given: Honey and their browser extension is swappin

by chinathrow 2y ago

twostorytower 2y ago
They don't just swap out everyone's cookies. They comply their the affiliate network's "stand down" policies. Which means they don't actively try to poach commissions in the same shopping session. These are terms everyone agrees to, including creators. If it's the next day, most merchants don't pay out for referrals older than 24 hours anyways. So like I said, there are some legitimate problems with the affiliate industry, but the rage should be directed at the affiliate networks that dictate the terms. They could easily switch to first click attribution which would solve this problem.
- chinathrow 2y ago
  Did we watch the same video? Where one commission was fully wiped out by Honey vs it would have been paid out if Honey was not installed?
  - twostorytower 2y ago
    You can replicate his same case and see for yourself. Click an affiliate link and go to checkout. Honey won't pop-up like normal. He doesn't provide the context for what his timescale is for his specific case. He cites that it can be up to 30 days later and Honey will still take the commission, which is true, but most merchants don't honor any cookies that are older than a day anyways. I'm not saying this isn't a problem, it's just not a Honey-specific problem. If he actually wanted to influence change, he should cover the affiliate networks responsible for dictating this behavior (CJ, Impact, Rakuten, Awin, etc). The extensions are forced to comply by their rules.