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> indentured servants on H1B visas That a pretty loaded statement on its own too. I was an H1B, but I most certainly didn't feel indentured. Nor did other rec

by jopsen 2y ago

> indentured servants on H1B visas That a pretty loaded statement on its own too. I was an H1B, but I most certainly didn't feel indentured. Nor did other recruiters who wanted to talk to me. I did actually end up moving back to Denmark, but that's another story. I think my point is that even for Europeans that have competitive job offers elsewhere, H1B is still the easiest visa, if you want to work on the US. I'll admit I think I mostly did it for the experience -- it was fun, I learned a lot -- but it's not like I couldn't have gotten the same job in Europe or Canada. I probably could, probably even with the same employer. I did even work remotely a few months from Denmark before my H1B kicked in. I would be sad to see H1B go, I had a lot of fun. And if I wanted to stay I'm confident I would have found a green card sponsor with ease.

lupusreal 2y ago
It's inaccurate insofar as as the indentured servitude of the 19th century was actually a proper path to citizenship while the new form officially is not, with participants only hoping to have a shot at citizenship if they get lucky with other visa applications. Otherwise, it binds workers to their employer in a way that facilitates wage suppression and other labor abuse. That's why it's indentured servitude.
- jopsen 2y ago
  People can jump employers while one H1B, anyways, it's besides my point, which is: Until the US had better visa programs, it would be a shame to dismantle the H1B program. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Make a replacement, then talk about changing H1B.
  - xpl 2y ago
    > People can jump employers while one H1B Good luck finding a new employer willing to sponsor your H1B within just 60 days (the grace period allowed before self-deportation) in this job market. Additionally, switching employers resets your green card approval process (if it has started), which can take years. This serves as a significant disincentive to change employers unless you've already filed your I-485. Considering that an H1B worker has only 6 years to progress through this process, there is even more pressure to avoid changing employers.

by jopsen 2y ago

lupusreal 2y ago

It's inaccurate insofar as as the indentured servitude of the 19th century was actually a proper path to citizenship while the new form officially is not, with participants only hoping to have a shot at citizenship if they get lucky with other visa applications. Otherwise, it binds workers to their employer in a way that facilitates wage suppression and other labor abuse. That's why it's indentured servitude.

jopsen 2y ago
People can jump employers while one H1B, anyways, it's besides my point, which is: Until the US had better visa programs, it would be a shame to dismantle the H1B program. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Make a replacement, then talk about changing H1B.
- xpl 2y ago
  > People can jump employers while one H1B Good luck finding a new employer willing to sponsor your H1B within just 60 days (the grace period allowed before self-deportation) in this job market. Additionally, switching employers resets your green card approval process (if it has started), which can take years. This serves as a significant disincentive to change employers unless you've already filed your I-485. Considering that an H1B worker has only 6 years to progress through this process, there is even more pressure to avoid changing employers.